United States Grand Prix - Discussion

ease up mate, i know it wasn't an interview, it clearly says that its a press release from the FIA. Mosely was referring to other sports to show how ridiculous the situation was. But the fact remains, it is a sport, that sport has rules, the rules were enforced.

That article is good, it is unbiased, i don't particularly like mosely, but i'm sticking to my view that in this case the right thing was done. I thought the same thing with Stoddart's dodginess in australia. What do you want? Flexible rules? I'm glad the SPORT i love is just that, a sport, and not a motorised version of ballet or some other art/entertainment.

Yeah, and its not much of a sport either with only 6 cars on the grid.

LMAO, HAHAHAHAHA. That was hilarious. Max Mosley is so full of shit. Lol, it really shows in his "Question" and Answer session that he was not there in the US. He just has no idea.

Stoddart is very biased. All the subjective crap in his article can be ignored, but it seems like he got most of the facts right.

Without wanting to go into a full blown discussion about what is and is not a sport, I'm going to disagree with you Hondavirgin. What is the point of a sport like F1 if it is not a show? F1 survives because it is a show. It is a sport and it would be no less a sport if a fair compromise was found. A sport is less of a sport when it is unfair. A fair solution could have been found where the right people got points, the right people got penalised and a show was put on so everyone could leave happy. I really don't think people would be complaining about how unsport-like a non-championship race would have been.

HAHAHAAHHAAHAHA, oh Max you crack me up. "We told them they could use the tyre, but that the stewards would undoubtedly penalise them to ensure they gained no advantage from breaking the rules by using a high-performance short-life tyre just for qualifying." Lol, so short-life that it explodes after a handful of laps. The problem was so obviously a fundamental problem for all Michelin tyres, not just a case of selecting a higher performance tyre. Seriously Max, come on!
In the end it didn't matter, 'cos the tyres Michelin had planned to send over failed testing so they would have had exactly the same problem.

what a tool max is...

lol

as it wasnt hard enough to entice the yanks away from the champ cart series to f1 already

Max is just being immature about it now.
I wonder what the drivers organisation didn't step in?

If they did I didn't hear about it.

ok, i understand you're points, but i still don't think a chicane was the right answer, its sets a terrible precedent that if you have enough power you can basically change the rules to suit your teams, i.e. in this case, slow down the track so you can be competitive.

And again, if the situation was reversed, no-one would even comment, so how fair is that for Ferrari!?

It wasnt the right answer in terms of the sport and championship. By getting rid of the championship part of it (ie, no points) then it was the right answer as all the fans got to have a show, albeit one that didnt count to the championship.

It doesnt mean **** about whether its a sport or nething. What makes a sport is the fans. And they shoulda been foremost if everyones mind.

what would have happened if a michelin runner had taken out a bridgestone runner then? would the michelin runners have to give way to bridgestone runners? what about if a Minardi has to give way to a faster car lapping it if it will hurt its own race against the jordans?

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Originally Posted by Hondavirgin

what would have happened if a michelin runners had taken out a bridgestone runner then? would the michelin runners have to give way to bridgestone runners? what about if a Minardi has to give way to a faster car lapping it if it will hurt its own race against the jordans?

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exactly! It just didnt seem to be fair for the six bridgestone runner (no matter who they are) to have someone running illegal/unsafe tyres around the track even though they would not take any championship points. There might have been clashes between bridgestone and michellin runners which would have taken any points away from bridgestones.

What if BAR Honda were allowed to race in the Monaco and Spanish GPs but would score no points? That would have make them good shows for the fans and for F1, but what was the point of having race ban as penalty?

Rules are rules, you can't change the rules to suit any competitors simply because they werent prepared for the event or made mistakes.

hihidamon, nEUROtic and Hondavirgin.

Everything you have said on page 14 (this page) I agree with.
Rules and rules but if a Michelin was racing for no points and hit a Bridgestone or just the idea of putting a chicane in to me is ludacris.

But, if ferrari had the problem, everyone would be like this "so, its there fault"
"don't race, CHEATERS"

To lighten up this thread

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y12...0/Michelin.jpg

HAHAAHAH thats golden!!!! lol great find :thumbsup: