Who said timeslip = fast car??? And who says street racing is the occasional tlgp?Quote:
Originally Posted by ginganggooly
I dont care if u dont think the d is fast. You will just be another kill on my list. Just like the NSX. Dave will show u the power graph, blowing off the rollers at 8000rpm cause of all its torque.
Under-estimation is the d-series power.
I wonder how many of the d-series haters in this thread have even driven a turbo d ??? ?? ?? ? ????
*all quite on the western front*
*tumbleweed*
Yeh, thought so... Now make a comment with all your experience and knowledge......
*tumbleweed*
Dont get me wrong, fastest FWD car ive ever driven was a b-series. It was great fun. If u can get one for free/come stock and built it right, u will love it. But swapping out ur D for a B, without 200+kw goals, ur just going to be dissapointed with the money VS power.
And thats what it comes down to right? There is no argument. No one is saying swap out ur b for a D. thats just stupid... well unless the d-series is built and turbo and ur b-series is stock :)
sweet that means there is yet to be seen a timeslips in oz of a bolt on d-series turbo in the 13 sec region.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weq
good reliability too, for someone who only races on the street. blown 3 engines, but who cares it's super cheap.
So how much for you to build a D-series for some of the boys on here. I would imagine under $800? Since a eg6 front cut is around $2500 and you've blown 3 built d-series and is still under that right.
No one is saying if you put a lot of work into a d-series it won't be fast.
I know, even in your sarcasm you proved my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by barefootbonzai
3x set of pistons (2xcp, 1xweisco) - $1500
1x set of rods (eagle) - $400
2x blow heads (due to improper building) - $250
3x gasket kits - $400
Homejob everything else. Just like your homejob install for the b16a.
Do the math.
F*ck off with your timeslips. You have the power under your foot. Goto WSID every week and watch the b-series run 15.5 too 14.8 in 90-100kw torqueless b-series. Pa-th-f*ing-ic. i tell me friends 'hey its fast, for a NA honda..' they just laugh at me. 'but dude, its got 2 cams and vtec. very powerful per NA ltr!!' *more laughs as a stock commo run 14.5.
So in other words aza and sexc86 are only gonna be able to do a few runs before they need a rebuild/tune cause they've broken something??
i have been running my car for nearly 4 years and still perfect compression nothing broken (touches wood) haha also for the record run my car over 30 times at willobank
funny also how you single azz'a and myself out because we are an easy target... the guys with the showcars, nice paint and chromies... cars with alot of weight (no its not an excuse) its a fact and therefor cant be compared to the same car with a b16 but alot lighter...
Imo if there was a stock eg civic with a stock b16a you ran some times in it and then you took out the engine and replaced it with my setup or Azz's setup i believe the D's would out perform (all conditions the same).... no offense to anyone here - IMO based on research and experience
lol, someones getting a bit touchy. It's even funnier when one of the guys on here go turbo charge there d-series go down there and loses to that stock commodore that ran 14.5Quote:
Originally Posted by Weq
and that's when i tell my mates, honda's are gay cause of cars like that, it's even got TURBO.
We'll wait for jamboree to see Aza run his 5000 turbo d setup against my 5000 b series setup, since its all about bang for the buck.
People make it like B series swopes are soo expensive..
fair enough but people dont realise how many variations of engines honda have usually .. you will have a r32 with an rb20 or a s13 with a sr20, sure they might be 1 engine upgrade possibly but usually its 1 car with 1 engine... dont think people understand that isnt necesselary the case with hondas... much more paths to choose fromQuote:
Originally Posted by barefootbonzai
also duy wasnt your best time in your b16 around a 14.3? not much difference especially in a much lighter car... (please correct me if im wrong)
lyle is ur d series beast gona be ready for jamboree
sif that's gonna prove anything, timeslips don't mean nothing. just gota tell people you choppped him by 6 car lengths down the long road near your cuzins sisters house.Quote:
Originally Posted by SLOWEGG
mate the one i building is far off so no.... and no im not raceing at jambo with my current setup... But look ill tell everyone what it does in as is condition with the current setup.... at 14.5 with 105fwkw.... for my speific car thats a good achievement due to weight factors (and i belive it can go lower)Quote:
Originally Posted by 90-POV
if no one believes me happy to post slips
I know there are b16s out there that run lower and complete hats off to them (Y) however different car different weight, if i were to put a b16 in my car it would make it go slower not faster...