Does you euro have drift to one side tendency?

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19-09-2006, 10:28 PM
Woogler

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Originally Posted by V205

As a worst case scenerio, I presume we only need to change the 2 front tyres and keep the old RE040 for use when the back ones wear out?

This is my intent. If it steers straight I will just flog them out in due course and replace them with better shoes later on.
19-09-2006, 10:28 PM
cgspot

Whatever

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Originally Posted by V205

Wow guys.... looks like it is pretty much the tyres. Any chance of honda Australia changing all the dodgy RE040?????

As a worst case scenerio, I presume we only need to change the 2 front tyres and keep the old RE040 for use when the back ones wear out?

Whatever we do ... This has confirmed my belief in forums like this ...
So ... we might not fix the problem immediately ... but it gives me enough confidence in the power of the people to join up and become a member.

Thanks ... for at least that!

Back to the issue in question ... well?
19-09-2006, 10:43 PM
V205

Unless someone wants to bring this up to Honda Australia, we'll just have to shell out the $ for 2 different types of front tyres.

To think of it... $500'ish isn't too much to pay to have a neutral tracking euro lux.

[QUOTE=cgspot]Whatever we do ... This has confirmed my belief in forums like this ...
So ... we might not fix the problem immediately ... but it gives me enough confidence in the power of the people to join up and become a member.

Thanks ... for at least that!

Back to the issue in question ... well?[/QUOTE
19-09-2006, 10:47 PM
yfin

Congratulations Woogler - this must have been a great relief for you. I don't think it is fair for you guys to fork out money for new tyres if they are to blame - the problem is convincing the dealer to replace them just like Woogler did.

So it looks like my solved drift to the "left" was a different issue to you guys with the drift to the right.
19-09-2006, 10:48 PM
cgspot

Not keen on different tyres front and back

I'm just not keen on having different tyres front and back, guess I like to rotate them and know what I'm in for.
19-09-2006, 11:28 PM
Omotesando

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Originally Posted by cgspot

Only time will tell...
After my tyres were rotated, the problem diminished.
But now ... 1000K later the problem is back.

It's not like there is NOT a problem, it's just so hard to pin point what it is!

There seems to have been a few quick fixes, but I'm still not sure what the cause of the problem is. Replacing Bridgestone Potenza with new Potenza has fixed the problem for some, but for how long ... ?

So ... If we call ... will it really make any difference?

Yes I question how long this solution will work. I assume Woogler got his 040s replaced with new 040s? :O

If you think about it... the 040s themselves can't be the core problem.

Something must be wrong on the car's suspension or weight distribution itself. The 040s are just exacerbating the problem as time goes by more and more.... perhaps because they 'track' too well in the direction of travel, being too 'directional'... and hence they tend to steer to one side more than other tyres. The fact that they're known to tramline, is good evidence they're just exaggerating the deeper underlying problem?

Anyway, I somehow still think (perhaps falsely) that this has to do with the fact that the left hand side of the car is higher than the right hand side.
The camber angles shown on the alignment machine might show both sides to be consistent, even when both sides have different suspension heights.
However, when someone sits in the driver seat, the weight balance is altered.

If you consider weight balancing - its trying to make turning left and turning right to be as similar as possible. That is, left front and right rear are as balanced with right front and left rear as possible. Its mainly to do with the car's characteristic 'when' it is already turning. However, it doesn't cater for the fact that, left front and left right might be imbalanced on a straight line! EDIT: I mean, it does - but not in terms of camber on an alignment machine, without the driver sitting in it..

I think people ought to get their cars balanced with themselves sitting on it? As a solution. Or dial in slightly more camber on the RHS?
19-09-2006, 11:35 PM
LXRY

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Originally Posted by yfin

If the alignment was "out by miles" the alignment was worth doing (but $110 sounds excessive!). As for the tracking problem - you cannot say alignment is not the problem if your tyres have worn uneven (that is what you said earlier). If your tyres look like / and \ no alignment in the world is going to fix tracking problems.

As you have your dealer on side ask them to fit the tyres/rims from a Euro demo in the yard. Take that for a drive. It will take less than 1 hour.

The front tryes where swapped with the back tyres....(the back tyres had no wear in them at all) so now I have the back tyres on the front...no wear in the front now if that makes any difference still drifting to the right. As for $110 for alignment maybe they seen me coming, this was done at Bob Janes...did not shop around, just went to the nearest place. It drifts with no acceleration as well..
19-09-2006, 11:51 PM
aaronng

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Originally Posted by LXRY

As for $110 for alignment maybe they seen me coming, this was done at Bob Janes...did not shop around, just went to the nearest place. It drifts with no acceleration as well..

Even if you are not shopping around, always call beforehand for prices. If it is too high, ask them for a cheaper price to tempt you to go in.
19-09-2006, 11:56 PM
LXRY

I'm still going to call and email HA tomm. around lunchtime. Also I am going to fill in a safety report at the consumer affairs website as I feel this is a safety issue...did I forget to mention that mine drifts HARD when I brake when road cambers? oops sorry..

Whether or not it'll make any difference or not I think we should all call and email HA as stated earlier also the safety report at Consumer Affairs website is very important as when more than 1 report goes to CA (consumer affairs) they have the power to act on our behalf they are there for us for this purpose.

I'm not nit picking, I am not a tight ass, I am not rich either, It shouldn't be my problem (thats why I bought a new car), it has NEW car warranty.

I will also be contacting VicRoads about this issue regarding safety...about to stir the pot hehe
20-09-2006, 12:03 AM
Omotesando

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Originally Posted by LXRY

I'm still going to call and email HA tomm. around lunchtime. Also I am going to fill in a safety report at the consumer affairs website as I feel this is a safety issue...did I forget to mention that mine drifts HARD when I brake when road cambers? oops sorry..

Whether or not it'll make any difference or not I think we should all call and email HA as stated earlier also the safety report at Consumer Affairs website is very important as when more than 1 report goes to CA (consumer affairs) they have the power to act on our behalf they are there for us for this purpose.

I'm not nit picking, I am not a tight ass, I am not rich either, It shouldn't be my problem (thats why I bought a new car), it has NEW car warranty.

If your car drifts hard even when you brake, then I suggest you get your Electronic Brake Distribution or VSA to be looked at as well!
20-09-2006, 12:34 AM
Woogler

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Originally Posted by LXRY

I'm still going to call and email HA tomm. around lunchtime. Also I am going to fill in a safety report at the consumer affairs website as I feel this is a safety issue...

LXRY

I will contact HA, even though mine now appears rectified (hopefully properly) as those arse clowns have not returned my last 3 enquiries about the problem over the past month!

I will also go to the Dept fair trading website and fill in a form. I am taking your word for it that it exists on there ;)
20-09-2006, 07:25 AM
cgspot

Calling HA

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Originally Posted by Woogler

LXRY

I will contact HA, even though mine now appears rectified (hopefully properly) as those arse clowns have not returned my last 3 enquiries about the problem over the past month!

I will also go to the Dept fair trading website and fill in a form. I am taking your word for it that it exists on there ;)

I'm calling HA today - after lunch and I'll email as well.

I've found the Unsafe product or service complaint form at the Qld Dept of Fair trading site:
http://www.fairtrading.qld.gov.au/oft/oftweb.nsf/AllDocs/29DD6F751B839AFE4A256B57002F0CEF/$File/Complaint_Form_Unsafe_Product_Service_V3_0805-FSO_1.pdf

However, I'm holding off on sending that, to allow HA some time to get back to us on the issue.

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