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04-01-2009, 11:00 PM
kitbkk

mines in the glove box so you cant see anything LOL
05-01-2009, 01:35 PM
Chris_F

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Originally Posted by kitbkk

Ill give it a miss then..
with those ECU like K-pro and Vipec, what is the chance of VTC slippage? I have read a thread on k20a forums there was a guy who ran a dc5r(I think) VTC mechanism and k-pro with k24a engine. The VTC slipped for only a split of secs and he blew his motor lol. I heard running a machined 45 degree stock VTC is more safe?

As far as I know the VTC voltage spike/slippage is a quirk of the Kpro ecu. ECU's like Motec and Vipec shouldn't have this problem, but you'd need to ask an experienced tuner about it to be sure. That's what I'll be doing ;)
05-01-2009, 02:27 PM
kitbkk

dayum! keep us updated please chris! LOL
05-01-2009, 04:04 PM
EUR003act

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Originally Posted by Chris_F

As far as I know the VTC voltage spike/slippage is a quirk of the Kpro ecu. ECU's like Motec and Vipec shouldn't have this problem, but you'd need to ask an experienced tuner about it to be sure. That's what I'll be doing ;)

i have a 50degree VTC wheel if you want to purchase one :)

and as for the slippage, yes ive heard of that too, IMO its much safer having it mechanically fixed at a max of 45degree...
05-01-2009, 04:14 PM
Chris_F

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Originally Posted by EUR003act

i have a 50degree VTC wheel if you want to purchase one :)

and as for the slippage, yes ive heard of that too, IMO its much safer having it mechanically fixed at a max of 45degree...

pm sent about the VTC ;)

it's definitely much safer with the 45 degree VTC. The only problem is finding a trustworthy place to get the 25 degree vtc gear machined.

The funny thing is, you can buy aggressive aftermarket cams that are safe with the full 50 degrees. It makes me wonder how dangerous it really is with the OEM cams.
05-01-2009, 04:20 PM
EUR003act

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Originally Posted by Chris_F

pm sent about the VTC ;)

it's definitely much safer with the 45 degree VTC. The only problem is finding a trustworthy place to get the 25 degree vtc gear machined.

The funny thing is, you can buy aggressive aftermarket cams that are safe with the full 50 degrees. It makes me wonder how dangerous it really is with the OEM cams.

majority of those cams tho are made for the K20 tho, to my knowledge they have larger valve reliefs... on the K24 the piston to valve clearance is pretty small, which is were the 50* VTC comes into issues...
05-01-2009, 04:31 PM
sodaz

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Originally Posted by kitbkk

mines in the glove box so you cant see anything LOL

That's pretty good. Can you tell me how big the control unit box is physically? So you drilled a few holes in the glove box to let the wires through?
05-01-2009, 07:49 PM
Chris_F

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Originally Posted by EUR003act

majority of those cams tho are made for the K20 tho, to my knowledge they have larger valve reliefs... on the K24 the piston to valve clearance is pretty small, which is were the 50* VTC comes into issues...

Yea that's true, the k20's do have more room to play with.

This is taken from the IPS website (http://www.intrinsicperformance.com/news.html):

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IPS-K2 compatibility for use with K24A2 (TSX) confirmed. Piston to valve clearance @ 50 degrees VTC advance = 0.030". We suggest imposing max advance of 45 degrees through software. Clearances were taken using RSX-S VTC sprocket. TSX VTC sprocket has mechanical limitation of 25 degrees max advance.

They still suggest a 45 degree limit through software which will be possible with a good standalone ecu. The majority of cam manufacturers that mention max VTC usually say to limit it via software. Though mechanical limits are always safer...

It'd be good if you could buy an off the shelf 45 degree VTC gear.
05-01-2009, 09:35 PM
kitbkk

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Originally Posted by sodaz

That's pretty good. Can you tell me how big the control unit box is physically? So you drilled a few holes in the glove box to let the wires through?

I think its about 15cm x 10cm in length and width and about 2 cm thickness. Only guesstimate though. No drills need to be done at all. Once you hook the plug and play harness from boomslang to you ECU, put back the carpet to cover the harness, pull the harness through the back of the glove box. There is a gap smaller than a fist size. Then plug the other end of harness to your emanage. Easy easy! Everything goes in neat. You cant even see any part of the harness uncovered. Then I lock my glove box so no one will play with it lol.
06-01-2009, 12:20 AM
sodaz

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Originally Posted by kitbkk

I think its about 15cm x 10cm in length and width and about 2 cm thickness. Only guesstimate though. No drills need to be done at all. Once you hook the plug and play harness from boomslang to you ECU, put back the carpet to cover the harness, pull the harness through the back of the glove box. There is a gap smaller than a fist size. Then plug the other end of harness to your emanage. Easy easy! Everything goes in neat. You cant even see any part of the harness uncovered. Then I lock my glove box so no one will play with it lol.

Awesome. Thanks for the detailed info! :thumbsup:
13-01-2009, 02:03 PM
BusterSonic12

Has anyone got a map for intake + exhaust to share? the wiring harness will arrive this week =) so just wanna try it out first.

Then maybe later this month, i going to get a header for it then get it all tuned together then. Thinking of the Toda ones since i hear all those good feedback from you guys.
13-01-2009, 02:15 PM
johnprocter

yeah but toda are fkn expensive!! i put on dc sports headers and j's racing single outlet titanium exhaust and it feels like a new car!

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