[CU2] funny noise from the engine when slow accelerate

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Originally Posted by SPQR

I've just read the CU2 Pinging data collection thread. Since anything but data collection has been forbidden by aaronng, I am posting my findings here; current as at the time of my post. Please feel free to correct me if I have missed something.

All those that have posted in the pinging data collection thread:

- reported pinging: False
- have early build cars: False
- have low kilometres: False
- have AT cars: False
- use 98 RON petrol: True
- use 95 RON petrol: False
- drive fast: False
- drive slow: False

The only "true" that holds thus far is that those using 98 RON petrol have the pinging problem (WTF?). BUT there is not enough data thus far to draw conclusions.

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Are you for real SPQR ?

People want their cars fixed, not your amateur statistician skills on display.
Keep your day job.
The fact that Honda have acknowledged that they have a problem, and there is a fix in the pipeline is not enough for you ?

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Originally Posted by aaronng

^^ Interesting. I wonder if anyone has tried using 95 RON instead to see if the pinging sound goes away.

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I have used nothing but 95RON and have no pinging problem at all after 5,000km

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Originally Posted by asimo

Are you for real SPQR ?

People want their cars fixed, not your amateur statistician skills on display.
Keep your day job.
The fact that Honda have acknowledged that they have a problem, and there is a fix in the pipeline is not enough for you ?

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I think what he tried to do is help us trying to figure out what causedthe problem, not just sit down and wait till honda test all the "fix" they can do on our cars "Oh this one doesnt fix it, lets try that one... Oh that one doesnt fix it as well, lets try that other one over there..." And at the end we got 114kw Accord Euro, not ATW that is... :(

so I'm not sure why u complain about SPQR statistic collection... :confused:

btw, his statistic is based on data collection thread on this forum, not random numbers

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Originally Posted by denot

I think what he tried to do is help us trying to figure out what causedthe problem, not just sit down and wait till honda test all the "fix" they can do on our cars "Oh this one doesnt fix it, lets try that one... Oh that one doesnt fix it as well, lets try that other one over there..." And at the end we got 114kw Accord Euro, not ATW that is... :(

so I'm not sure why u complain about SPQR statistic collection... :confused:

btw, his statistic is based on data collection thread on this forum, not random numbers

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I appreciate that he's trying to help, and I might have overreacted, but I think the only way is to put presure on Honda as a group and force them to do something about it. If the 'fix' results in the car having only 114kW (btw, did you use this as an example, or do you have some info ? - would be good to know) then it's NOT A FIX, in my opinion.

What would the alternative be ? Outsmart the whole research department of
Honda in Japan, and find a fix that is not covered by warranty ?!...

It's been said before: the fuel quality argument doesn't fly. The CL9
(I had one and drove it everyday for five years) had more power and response under acceleration, and it didn't knock/ping or whatever Honda choose to call it. And I used the same fuel.

Even if the 'improved' engine is more sensitive to the quality of the fuel,
Honda have been present in Oz for eons; they know exactly what the aussie fuel looks like; so, if they choose to bring Honda Accord Euro to Oz, they have the responsibility to ensure it performs according to the specs; otherwise, they would have misrepresented their product.

hi ,guys ,I'm new here, bought the car 2 months ago ,same probs as everyone.

have been contacting the dealer and the Honda Australia regarding the knocking noise

and low power at pinging time without any happy answer from the Honda Australia, the

manager from Honda said it's normal sound!!!then said they've working on it .I asked if

it's normal why you working on the solution???because you guys complaint it!!!

Off course I'm not happy with .SO I've called VCA and guide one of officers to this thread

and they will be monitoring this issue fro now.because it's not single issue any more.

I've been told to lodge a formal complaint to Honda which I suggest all of us to do it

asap!!!

we are not fools!!!

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Originally Posted by asimo

...only 114kW (btw, did you use this as an example, or do you have some info ? - would be good to know) then...

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Hi mate, sorry for the confusion, its just an example (based on the civic sports figure, if I can remember correctly...

anyway, hopes this problem fix for you guys (I havent, hopfully never, got this problem)

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Originally Posted by fire88

hi ,guys ,I'm new here, bought the car 2 months ago ,same probs as everyone.

have been contacting the dealer and the Honda Australia regarding the knocking noise

and low power at pinging time without any happy answer from the Honda Australia, the

manager from Honda said it's normal sound!!!then said they've working on it .I asked if

it's normal why you working on the solution???because you guys complaint it!!!

Off course I'm not happy with .SO I've called VCA and guide one of officers to this thread

and they will be monitoring this issue fro now.because it's not single issue any more.

I've been told to lodge a formal complaint to Honda which I suggest all of us to do it

asap!!!

we are not fools!!!

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Typical dealer response. Which dealer did you speak to?

hi guys ,I think we should lodge formal complaints against Honda Au asap . everyone, we

have to act now on it for us!ring the consumer affairs to tell them what's going on!

we have to get enough attentions .

Stand up guys!

*sits down*

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Originally Posted by asimo

Are you for real SPQR ?

People want their cars fixed, not your amateur statistician skills on display.
Keep your day job.
The fact that Honda have acknowledged that they have a problem, and there is a fix in the pipeline is not enough for you ?

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I type therefore I am. I don't own a CU2 yet but I would like the problem to be fixed because I'd like to own a CU2 (V6) one day; preferably not one with any problems. I was trying to help to identify some sort of pattern but that proved elusive.

what makes you think we will get the V6 Euro in Australia? I believe if it goes ahead it will be for USA only. The 2.4L Euro is quick enough for most people while giving economy that almost matches the Civic. I will post some economy figures in the next few days based on an average over 5,000km.

I'm with joystick & will sit down with him.

^^ I was just wishing out loud.:) V6's can be economical a well. But having never owned any car with more than 4 cylinders (Escort RS2000, Laser TX3 Turbo, Mazda GTX Turbo, Subaru WRX) I'd like to have a V6 one day and so it would be nice if it was in a CU2.