Does you euro have drift to one side tendency?

I just sent the following message to HA:

I am registering a formal complaint and am asking for a solution to a problem with The Accord Euro 06 17" Bridgestone Potenza Tyres, badly tramlining and also veering to the right hand lane in under six seconds. A wheel rotation at 1000Klm minimised the issue but now it has resurfaced. This is not an uncommon problem as other owners have the same issue. Tyre rotations, tyre replacements, wheel alignments, tie rod adjustments, adjusting the sub frame, Is it the fixed camber? are some of the suggestions but I just need to know what will fix it. It is dangerous a real safety issue. Please contact me with a solution, I don't want a trial and error time wasting ad hoc approach and episodes with the dealer.

Have also called - Customer service 1800 804 954

Customer Relations will get back within 48hours.
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I too called HA customer relations awaiting a call within 48 hours, have not filled in safety report as yet as i too am awaiting HA's response.

This is the email I have sent -

"I have a problem with my car drifting to one side(the right hand side).

This happened at 5000-6000klm's, at this stage it was very,very bad drifting on a straight road. I did not hit any pot holes of any kind, was taking it easy the whole time. I took the car to my dealership at the 10,000 klm's service notified them of the problem, asked them to check the car thoroughly as it was badly drifting. I asked them to do a wheel alignment aswell, if it needed it. When I went to pick the car up they told me that it had nothing to do with the alignment of the car and that they adjusted something else which fixed the problem. As soon as I left the dealership I noticed that it was still drifting, not as bad but still drifting, mainly when the road cambered (slightest of camber). I returned the car to my dealership asking them to please check my car because it was still doing this.

The response that I got from the dealership ('edited') was that there was:- Three mechanics drove the car and there was no problem with the car, that all accord euro's do this (common), I was driving a front wheel drive, it was the low profile tyres, i'd bought a sports car, that I had to wait till my tyres wore out to 50% and that not to worry because if it was a problem that honda had plenty of money and they would fix this...I had never heard such CRAP before in my life, very disgusted actually. During the drifting if I brake the car drifts even more.

Since then I have taken it to get a wheel alignment and it has not rectified the problem not as bad though mainly because they rotated the tyres from the back to front ( the tyres on the back have no wear in them at all as for the front they are noticibly worn). I was told when I bought the car that I had bought a quality car....from a quality dealership....and a quality car manufacturer. At the moment it doesn't seem so. I had wondered if I was the only one with this problem so I started searching for other people with the same problem and found that I am not the only one with this problem.

I would appreciate some answer please as it has affected me in every way.

I am a first time honda customer. I was intending on buying another honda aswell. If I dont hear or get contacted from honda in the next few days I will be reporting this to the right authorities (Consumer Affairs and Vic Roads) as this is a SAFETY issue and should be rectified IMMEDIATELY.

I'm sure this is a minor problem and if investigated properly it can be rectified.

Kindest Regards 'edited' ( VIN number : 'edited' )


P.S i tried to fill in your contact us form in your website but it gave me an internal error."

For anyone who gets an internal error this is the direct email for honda customer relations-

hondacr@honda.com.au

Wooger, Note that the 05' Euro Luxury were the first to have 17" rims with the RE040 and as we've seen here, thoses '05 Euro Lux also exhibited the same issue.

LXRY, why don't you try changing the 2 front tyres to something different?

In my experience, going through the grief with car dearlers is just not worth the time and effort if you can resolve the problem yourself.

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Originally Posted by V205

Wooger, Note that the 05' Euro Luxury were the first to have 17" rims with the RE040 and as we've seen here, thoses '05 Euro Lux also exhibited the same issue.

LXRY, why don't you try changing the 2 front tyres to something different?

In my experience, going through the grief with car dearlers is just not worth the time and effort if you can resolve the problem yourself.

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I agree with V205.From day 1 i changed my OEM tyres (do not like Bridge stone,past exp)to Conti Sport contact 2s and haven,t looked back.I've now got 6000kms.Not a hint of drifting or tramlining.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by V205

Wooger, Note that the 05' Euro Luxury were the first to have 17" rims with the RE040 and as we've seen here, thoses '05 Euro Lux also exhibited the same issue.

LXRY, why don't you try changing the 2 front tyres to something different?

In my experience, going through the grief with car dearlers is just not worth the time and effort if you can resolve the problem yourself.

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Because it is a Honda problem, and it is unfair for him to shell out $500 for a pair of tyres when it isn't his fault.

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Originally Posted by yfin

So it looks like my solved drift to the "left" was a different issue to you guys with the drift to the right.

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I am starting to get this too :(

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Originally Posted by Spec83

I am starting to get this too :(

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What size rims, type of tyre, Klm's?

just went have had a wheel alignment done at beaurepairs today...
the rear axle toe was -2.6mm and +2.9mm(which was still acceptable) but the front toe!!! god it was +5.5mm(left) and -8.5mm.... um... that wasn't good wasn't it?
but after my alignment my wheel is not straight at all(pointing at about 12:10 direction)... guys at beaurepairs adjusted the steering wheel rack twice and its the same... so they said it is because the road (camber or something)

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Originally Posted by jamchen

just went have had a wheel alignment done at beaurepairs today...
the rear axle toe was -2.6mm and +2.9mm(which was still acceptable) but the front toe!!! god it was +5.5mm(left) and -8.5mm.... um... that wasn't good wasn't it?
but after my alignment my wheel is not straight at all(pointing at about 12:10 direction)... guys at beaurepairs adjusted the steering wheel rack twice and its the same... so they said it is because the road (camber or something)

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What was the front toe after adjustment?

0.0mm and 0.0mm :P

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Originally Posted by cgspot

What size rims, type of tyre, Klm's?

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Just the stock Euro Lux wheel and tyre at ~18xxxKms... You seem to put the car in the centre of the road and it just drifts to the left and you have to correct it constantly... :(

Well i rang Honda this afternoon,talked to two females about the issue.First i got the standard Hondaspeak reply,you all know how it goes " well you need to take this up with your dealer who will carry out a wheel alignment and suspension check etc....yada yada ya.
After that speil i explained to her that the reason i am so sure it is the Potenzas was because when i swap back to my 16" wheels,the problem immediately disappears.Then i got put through to another woman who gave me that old dealership story we all got when we wanted to buy the Standard Euro but with the 17" rims, that is, that the Euro Lux has different suspension to the Standard and this was the cause of my drifting.I tried to explain to her nicely that this was "crap" and that as a mechanic i know that any physical differences in the suspensions are not going to cause this effect just because someone adds 17" rims ,besides which there are plenty of people out there who are running 17" and 18" rims on Standard model Euros and not experiencing this problem.
I dont think i actually achieved much, but when i told her there were plenty of other people complaining about this problem she asked me how i would know that.I told her that Honda had received a number of calls and emails today about the issue, which she initially queried.When i explained to her that there were web sites where Honda enthusiasts from all over Australia converse with each other she was surprised, and i gave her the OzHonda web address. Should be interesting reading for her.
As i said in an earlier post, i dont expect Honda will do anything for me because i am running the 17" instead of the Standards 16" rims,and this would be a good enough excuse for Honda not to consider my cars problem even though the rims and tyres came straight off a Euro Lux with 7000ks,but my experience pretty well proves that it is the Potenzas that are the problem, and if that helps the rest of you get some satisfaction from Honda then well and good.
At the end of my conversation with this woman i think i detected a willingness by Honda (after one jumps through all the dealership hoops) to just possibly replace the offending equipment,whatever that may be.The saga continues....