Best 8 cylinder engine in the world

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Originally Posted by Hadean

aaronng. Your points are valid, but I refer to the 6.0L LS2, not the 5.7L LS1. These two engines are vastly different from each other in almost every way.

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That's because the LS2 is not yet released for the Holden range, only HSV :) . Once Holden starts using it, then the LS2 will take over the reign of "V8 for the masses" position (and will sit beside the LS1 in my books).

Based on your experience with the LS2, Holden seems to have addressed the issue of the lack of low end grunt in the LS1, which to me was very odd for a 5.7L engine. But I guess it was because the ECU mapping for some reason neglected the lower RPM range.

goooo aarronngg!!!!

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Originally Posted by locote

330hp WAW!!!!
well my mates N14 Ti pulsar has 320Hp at front wheels and it weighs under a tonne.
and it cost under 10grand.
hes not into drag racing but so dont know what time he would get but if a big old cluncky commodore can get low 12s with only 330hp then that make his car a 10 sec car hey.
his beaten 400hp old school cars most of his mates r into them.
(Chargers, Ford Gts, Mustangs)

and stock to stock i pulled a 13.8 in my s15 when it was stock.
best ive seen from a stock 2002 LS1 at drags is 14.6
what a joke!!!!!!
Holden are so poor they couldnt make a descent 6 cyl they had to pay nissan to use the RB30e, and et to use on their commodore.

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locote did you notice the RB30 only lasted one model? I understand this is because they kept cracking heads in the VL. Also aaronng the ls2 has been fast tracked into VZ Holdens since January 1st this year apparently, because of Euro 3 emissions rules. It has 260 kw and 510 Nm on 98 octane and holden claims 14L/100k. Also because of the deadline it doesn't get the displacement on demand or variable valve timing but these things will probably go into the VE when it's released.

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Originally Posted by matt

on a twisty road however the little honda screamer would show the big dumb commo whos boss!

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No doubt the TypeR is a mean handler...but don't write the Commodores off as straight-line material only.

A mate of mine has a V2 Series 3 Monaro ('04), bog stock except for a home-made fibreglass intake, a downloaded tune, semi-slicks and some adjustable camber/toe stuff up front.

He's only been to Wakefield a few times, but has done a 1:12.xx and does consistent 1:13:xx's. Another bloke does the same times in his VX SS, again with basic mods (tune, exhaust, diff gears, suspension but not coilovers etc..)

There are SS's doing 1:10's around Wakefield too...so they're not only good in a straight line. Not bad for cars that weigh up to 1,800kg.

Out of pure curiosity, what's a stock (recent model) TypeR do around Wakefield in the hands of a good driver? AndyS mate, if you're reading, feel free to chime in. :) I looked through a few threads but didn't see any times.

Cheers,
- Febs.

**** for my own 2cents the BEST v8 would be the twin turbo out of the bitching old ferrari F40.

sorry guys i've been converted..
i used to hate V8's and i shited on em all day and bagged em out badly.
but i'm going to have to jump and the V8 band wagon..
a while ago i was driving around in my work V8 monaro.
i believe it is the LS1 ( first gen monaro)
i couldnt believe how resposive and powerfull this engine was.
it wasnt like a turbo rush, but it was making constant power all they up to 6.5K rpm ( i think it was) sounded beautiful with extractors and dual piping exhaust.
turned the A/C no power difference.. the car it self wasnt the best ( big turning circle/ steering wheel too big. etc) but the engine felt the business.
it wasnt that bad on fuel either..
it wasnt a four cylinder run of fuel puff efficiency, but for the size and power it was drinking so little then what i expected.
i really think this is a great engine.
and i have been converted.
eventhough the LS serise isnt the best power maker in the world but it wins my votes for user friendly engine ??! lol

BMW S62 engine form the E39 M5. 400hp (298kw) & 369 lb-ft (500nm) from a 5L V8.

thats 5l v8....

b16a is 170hp 155torque 1.6l....

if u
x5 of b16a engine > BMW S62 engine

honda power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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Originally Posted by marcus

BMW S62 engine form the E39 M5. 400hp (298kw) & 369 lb-ft (500nm) from a 5L V8.

thats 5l v8....

b16a is 170hp 155torque 1.6l....

if u
x5 of b16a engine > BMW S62 engine

honda power!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1

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why would you multiply it by 5 when it only has twice the number of cylinders....

if you work out specifc power, bmw = 400hp/8 = 50hp

b16a = 170/4 = 42.5

bmw still wins

or...per litre....400hp/5l = 80hp/litre

b16a = 170hp/1.6l = 106.25

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Originally Posted by Mr_will

why would you multiply it by 5 when it only has twice the number of cylinders....

if you work out specifc power, bmw = 400hp/8 = 50hp

b16a = 170/4 = 42.5

bmw still wins

or...per litre....400hp/5l = 80hp/litre

b16a = 170hp/1.6l = 106.25

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Uhhhhh... I've never seen specific power worked out as hp per cylinder. It's always hp per litre.

and the F20C 240hp/2.0L = 120hp/L of displacement....

and wtf is hp per cylinder? noob!

if per litre
b16
170/1.6 =106.25 hp

honda wins!!!!!!

vtec the power of dreams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by matt

mmm i dont know anything about your car superR but while i certainly dont think the ls2 is the best v8 in the world i would like to see you beat one in a staright line, on a twisty road however the little honda screamer would show the big dumb commo whos boss!.
for the money though the ls2 is a great engine for people who like that sort of thing, hell once upon a time i wanted nothing more than a rumbling commodore v8.
but it really comes down to what people want and after driving my brothers integra while i had a vt commo, well the rest is history ( :honda: :thumbsup: ).

edit: just found that your type r is turboed superR (nice), while this would make it somewhat closer i would still think that the ls2 would come out in front.

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lol turbo type R.... i wont say the output but its upthere. lol