Interesting, does that mean you can return the car if figures are changed because it's not what you paid for? Based on the vehicle no longer meets your requirements....
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Apart from dynoing the only way to know if all new models come with the new computer upgrade and the specs are adjusted on the specs of the Euro to inform new buyers.
Honda wouldn't risk a come-back like that. As Denot suggested, they won't tell you if there will be a power/torque decrease and as Joystick suggested, a "new" update model car and specification would probably be released with lower quoted figures for new buyers.
Can confirm similar story as for Bobjones & Thewizzrd. Blair Honda has advised of a fix available early next month. You have to give yr details to them so they are aware you have the problem & presumably they'll contact us??
Will be asking what the effect of the fix will have on power figures. Whether I get any honest answer is anyone's guess.
Well...i think whoever is getting the update, have to ask that question and try to get some "black and white" from honda. Example, if they said no power is lost, then get them to put down in writing if possible. That might be your most powerful evidence in the future if you realise your car is not as powerful as before!
I am not sure whether they will give you, but i definately will try. And as a customer, its my right to ask "what happen to my car after the update"!
Hey there Omotesando - I remember this problem it was there in my 2006 Euro - there's a small metallic noise / watery trickling noise from the aircon. This in the 2003 was a "groaning" A/C due to a faulty / noisy TX valve. Drove me mad enough to sell both cars for a Nissan 350Z - which never rattled despite the stiff suspension etc as u would know for a car of that calibre.
Now I'm about to buy a 2009 Euro Luxury Auto - to be delivered April 2009. Should I be concerned about this pinging noise - if yes I'll get on the hornblower to my sales consultant / dealer ASAP!!!
PS: I never did hear this "pinging" noise or any rattles for that matter on my 2 x test drives with the Accord Euro Base Auto and Euro Lux Auto. So I'm getting a bit concerned now!
SURPRISE!!! The luxury navi that I test drove didn't have the pining noise either but the base model that I bought? Started pinging as soon as I drove away from the dealership!? :(
I'm trying to collect data and analyse the pinging issue HERE but unfortunately there's not enough data to produce an accurate representation to the issue but from what I've gathered, it seems like it mainly exists in AT cars and the earlier builds circa May, June & July 2008 builds (with the exception of chikaboom with his MT 08/2008 build). :confused:
Hope this helps with your buying decision.
I think you might be jumping the gun a bit there.
Any change to the ECU would have the potential to change the engines emission and I would think would need regulatory approval.
Wouldn't this be the approval they are talking of?
Anyway I have my six month service this Wednesday so I'll see what the service manager has to say.
You have the 'pinging' issue as well Sludge? :(