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Originally Posted by cgspot
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Thursday, 21 September 2006
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I woudn't count on it.I reckon it's the tyres.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrarista
I noticed our Euro pulling to the right today, but only under deceleration. At the time, the highway didn't have any unusual camber from the norm. Might be going crazy but under acceleration....no problems (as yet!) Only done 1135k's though. I'll keep you posted.
Ferrista,how did you go with the fitting of the camber kit?Did it fix your drifting problem?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrarista
This is the email:-
Dear ('edited')
Thank you for your enquiry.
Please be assured your enquiry has been forwarded to the relevant department for action.
Honda Customer Service
Recieved a phone call today:-
"Please book in your car at your dealership as they have advised my dealership....." I asked what they where going to do or what was the cause ? she, the nice sounding, sweet lady told me that she was no expert on the matter and that she had been advised to contact me and tell me to book my car in. Booking it in tommorrow...will post on outcome tommorrow
Ok took the car in today.... service manager wasn't in so I had to deal with the foreman of the mechanics, good bloke...told me last time I had brought it in that they adjusted the K frame....not much but just a bit.
He also told me that this was common with the euros and the whole time that he had been working with honda that there was no fix that he knew of....
He told me to leave the car with them for a few days and they would work on it to see if they could rectify the problem.....
He said that Honda Australia might have sent something for a fix to the service manager but had to wait for the service manager to get back from holidays on Monday.....
I asked him also if I change the suspension and rims and tyres would it fix the problem, he said NO. I also asked him whether the left suspension was higher that the right, he laughed and said NO.
I explained to him that I had taken it to get a wheel alignment and that it still didn't fix the problem, showed him the results as well. I also explained to him that they had to put it on the rack twice to straighten the steering wheel (still not straight).
They are going to send the car too get a wheel alignment and checked out somewhere else in the mean time.
Will post again tomm. (crossing my fingers)
Good that they are acknowledging the problem and are being serious in rectifying it.
Got my car back, still the same.
When I got to the car dealership, I found my car with stock rims and stock tyres....They told me that it was because of the low profile tyres that i was experiencing this problem...They wanted me to drive it with stocks to prove this. To be honest i had a bit of a laugh about this.
I asked them then why when I brought my car in to the 10,000klm service they adjusted the K-frame if it was due to low profile tyres? They told me that it was due to tyre wear that they adjusted the k-frame. Now due to tyre wear they had to adjust the K-frame? Highly unlikely, more like adjusted it to compensate for the severe drifting.
I am not exagerating when I say my car was drifting VERY, VERY, VERY BADLY everyone. It's obviously not as bad now due to the adjustment but still pulling to the right evidently and something did go wrong at 4000-5000klms enough for them to adjust the K-frame.
As you all know I took my car in recently to get a wheel alignment and twice they tried to get the steering wheel straight, with no success as well. Now is this also due to tyre wear and low profile tyres? Don't think so!!
At the 4000-5000 klm mark the drifting started HARD AND FAST which makes this a safety issue. I am lucky that I didn't get into an accident. (no exageration).
I will be taking my car in for some tests to a few professional's (At my expense).
I will also follow through with the safety reports with the appropriate authorities (Vic-Roads and Consumer Affairs) as this is serious and it is silly to wait for an accident to happen. Honda Australia needs to be aware of the safety factor and not consider this as a warranty issue.
I recommend everyone with this problem do the same as Vic-Roads and Consumer Affairs will act on our behalf if more than one case is reported. I am in Victoria so I'm not sure on which is the right authorities in other states, but if unsure Consumer Affairs can help in with this.
Apparently some of the civic's are coming back with drifting as well, but to the left.
(At 100klm/h on a flat road if the car drifts to the next lane within 6 secs check the specs of the car....Pffft)
Thanks for your update.
What do you mean by stock rims and stock tyres? You mean they put on 16" standard euro rims/tyres for you to try?
So how were those?
I'm sure a lot of people here would be willing to get a petition going regarding this issue.
Since I started having a bit of the drift right issue - I actually found that sometimes it doesn't drift. But IF the car was to drift either left or right, depending on road conditions, the car would want to drift to the right much much harder than it would want to drift to the left.
i.e. if the camber of road is to the left, the car sometimes doesn't drift to the left.
If the camber of the road is neutral, sometimes it drifts to right. Sometimes it tracks neutrally.
If the camber of road is to the right, then it drifts to the right really really badly. :(
I wonder if others notice the same thing :S
Here's a similar update for you. USDM IS250s are pulling to the right as well! Their tyres? Bridgestone RE030 tyres!!!
http://my.is/forums/showthread.php?t=306313
Yes they where 16" euro rims and tyres (brand new), didn't notice it at all (drifting) seemed like the standards masked it more, but as soon as they put my 17's back on "presto" back again. Mind you my drifting isn't as bad as before, more like your problem now -Quote:
Originally Posted by Omotesando
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Originally Posted by Omotesando
Yep this is my case at the moment too....Quote:
Originally Posted by Omotesando
But the big question is what causes the car too drift so bad that they have to adjust the k-frame? To me it's obvious it wasn't the tyre wear, low profiles and 17" rims like they are stating. The tyre wear was due to the drifting, this is obvious to me now. (tyre wear at 4000 klm's come on who are they trying to kid?)
I read the thread sounds familiar....could it be a flaw or inconsistancies in the bridgestones? Dunno hard for me to say....not a tyre expert. Need to have a euro with different tyres from new aswell to compare. Still it shouldn't be our problem it's a Honda matter which they should test and eliminate themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
So that means change my tyres spend money I shouldn't have to spend and what if it still happens...?
Why hasn't the drifting got worse if it's a flaw in the tyres? And why to the right and not to the left? None of us have complained about drifting to the left. And when I got the wheel alignment done, they swapped the front with the rear (rear are like brand new) still drifts the same no difference noticed...
I will email Bridgestone aswell regarding the matter stay tuned....