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I found a Crown (or Crowln) kit that will stroke out to 2.12litres but thats over 2k US (50% deposit needed) .. i was thinking a cheaper alternative..
What will a b18cR crank, piston and rods do for me? will the displacement increase?
Wat would be the difference between the b16aII + ITR crank, piston and rods against a b18cR? Differences include... ?
According to Honda-Tech you can use a B18 crankshaft, B18 rods and custom pistons to stroke the B16a out to 1.8L.
You cannot use the Type R pistons or any b18 pistons with the B18 crank/rods in a b16a as they were designed taking into account the 7mm taller deck of the b18c. That is of course unless you use a deck plate.
Adrian - Toda AU.
-Can you purchase the pistons from the Toda stroker kit separately?
-Does moving the wrist pin higher in the pistons (consequently moving the rings higher also), have any adverse affects on the engines oil consumption?
James.
Will this effectivly make b16a a b18cR? or close to it?
Ie - similar torque, hp output..
Would this increase/decrease/neither the life of the engine?
Labour costs (ballpark estimate) to get crank, rods and customs installed?
Will this requiring boring?
For OZHonda members...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir JDM
The TODA B16A 1800cc kit is $3200 - shipped direct
Includes, forged pistons, rods, crank & B/E bearings...
just import a new race A class engine..save all the fuzz....don't need to think soo much....stress...haiyo...
Really??? & were do you supose that might come from...Quote:
Originally Posted by pgclee
The "Race A class engine shop" perhaps???
Or is Harry Potter just going to waive his wand and make one of these imaginary engines just appear...
Hmmm...
hahahaha I agree with Toda AU very under rated mod... for half the price you have yourself b18c performance... I say get the Toda kit :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TODA AU
If i could find a blardy b16 engine i would stroke it over replacing it... why replace a good block for another good block??
I dont mean to offend or correct anyone, im asking this purely because i DONT know = ]... in saying that, type one, you said for 1/2 the price u get b18c performance?
$3200 ... u can nearly buy a whole b18c 1/2 cut with that? Wouldn't that be a better option? Or do you mean b18cR?
Toda will this stroker kit give same/similar performance to a b18cR ? or just a b18c?
How much labour would be needed to spent to do the internals?
The kit is capable of producing 270hp at the flywheel.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir JDM
Of course this is on a heavily modified engine...
Spec B camshafts, valve springs, cam gears, ported head, sports injection, oil pump gear etc...
Using the ITR or CTR intake manifold the power out put is limited to around 240hp at the flywheel using Spec B camshafts.
Avoid the temptation to use Spec C camshafts on this engine combination as piston speed becomes too high at high rpm to be able to utilise ideal cam timing for strong low end performance.
For guys who don't want to go through the hastle of changeing engines etc, it is a viable option.
As an indivitual mod on it's own, the resultant performance scarcly short of that given buy a genuine ITR B18C7....
For those who already have CTR cams, or better again, CTR intake & ITR exhaust cams will see equal to B18C7 performance from their B16A.
Add Spec B cams & things start to get interesting... ;)
Additional costs involved are obviously an engine build...
Any other additional parts not already aquired (ECU etc)...
The removal & replacement of the engine & tuning...
Cheers
Adrian
Thanx alot Adrian some very helpful information. Just a couple more questions.
I dind't get what you were saying about the ECU, is my stock ECU still able to be used? Or do i need to upgrade to an aftermarket or ITR one or something...?
Ball park figure for the costs involved to do the *engine rebuild*?
Will b16a cams be suffice?
Will this increase/decrease or do nothing to engine life?
thx mate
James
yeah sorry i meant b18cR
What is the oil pump gear required for?Quote:
Originally Posted by TODA AU