Looks really like QLD for the bloody LOSS.. if p plates cant even drive NA 4 cyl cars with valve technology lol. WTF is that?
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Looks really like QLD for the bloody LOSS.. if p plates cant even drive NA 4 cyl cars with valve technology lol. WTF is that?
This man is correct! :thumbsup: Any modification that requires an engineer's certificate is illegal for P-platers, regardless of whether you put it in before you got your P's or even if you bought the car like that. Don't know if swapping from d16a8 to a b16a requires an engineer's certificate or not, haven't looked that far into it :)Quote:
Originally Posted by eg5civic
Wrongdizzle! ;) I'm a brissy P-plater driving an ek4, vtec equipped :cool: Although there's rumors that this law could come into force :eek:Quote:
Originally Posted by Chriskoss
haha, laws to make it illagel to drive cars which arnt powered by push rods....
if u swap ur motor from a d series to a b series, as long as that motor came out with that car orignally its fine.
and if u leave everything OEM, even the most experienced cops wont know wat it is if u remove the GLI badges.
i got quoted 1500 for d15b4 :(Quote:
Originally Posted by PHM91
The guy that engineered my car told me that if you swap an Engine, it had to be engineered. Even if it's the same type of engine, cos the engine numbers change.Quote:
Originally Posted by eg5civic
But if this rule is in place, then you can put NSX brakes on a EK, and it would be fine.
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Originally Posted by eg5civic
read the laws specifically and make sure u understand it.. coz lots of ppl just read it n think they get the jist n then complain how shit it is
National Code of Practice for Light Vehicle Construction & Modification.
Bookmark it. Read it.
Just to clear up a few things for people.
Engine Replacement
You can replace your engine with a replacement new, used or reconditioned engine of the same type. Also an equivalent factory optioned engine for that model, with out the need for certification.
Performance Engines
Fitting of a replacement engine with more than 20% greater weight and/or power output than the engine offered by the manufacturer as a standard or optional engine requires certification.
As EG Civic's weren't constructed in Aus with a B-series engine, legally you need a mod plate to put one in. Therefore legally no, P-platers aren't allowed to have one.
Yes you may get away with it for a while, but there is a very good chance that a cop will take 1 look at it and tell you to start making calls for someone to come pick you up. With the introduction of the new P-plate vehicle power restrictions a lot more cops are being taught what cars/engines you are and aren't allowed to drive. So having a big "DOHC VTEC" embossed on a rocker cover kinda gives it away...
$200 for the VRS kit if you're lucky. All up it will cost over $1000 for a head gasket replacement. Expect more if you've warped your head and need it machined.Quote:
Originally Posted by PHM91
Oh and to the OP, vtec isn't a form of forced induction, it's just honda's form of variable valve timing (and lift control). Most modern cars have VVT. Honda's is just more advanced than most. So it's not illegal for you to drive a vtec honda. It's just illegal for you to dive an engine swapped one if it didn't come factory with one.
with regards to no more than 20% greater weight. I have a d16y4 in my ek atm, would i legally be able to run a b18c in it??
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Originally Posted by 02gzm
I'm sorry but EK's were not offered B18C's as an equivalent factory optioned engine. I'd think that if you wanted a B18C in your EK1, you'd require an engineer's certificate. This is based on my reading as all :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jks24
yeh didnt think i could do a conversion, ahhh p plate laws. Oh well it means i have to get a dc2r then, actually not a bad thing :DQuote:
Originally Posted by eeKayFouR
Hahaha I didn't read your post properly first time round. Disregard what I said even though it's true that the EK's were not offered the B18C. Anyway, I have no idea if the B18C is no more than 20% in weight soz :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by jks24
Oh so you're still p-plater :p then yeh B18C into your EK1 is a no go zone for us :pQuote:
Originally Posted by jks24