difference between first gen b16a and b16a1 ?

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Originally Posted by bennjamin

Is that what u thought too , Danny ?

lol.

*back on topic*

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i dont get it.. :confused:

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Originally Posted by tinkerbell

THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A 'B16A1'

show me a block stamp with 'B16A1' on it please!

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Gotcha buddy!!!

The UK and European EE9 Civic and EE8 CRX VT had a B16A1 in them. Unlike the JDM spec EF9 Civic and EF8 CRX, the "1" was stamped on the engine to read B16A1. The motor put out 150bhp as opposed to the JDM B16A's 160ps.

The statement should be: "There is no such thing as a JDM B16A1" :)

I'll PM CivicJim on the 4th gen forums and see if he still has the photo of his EE9's block number ::)

thanks setanta - that is the only correct response to my comment that "THERE IS NO SUCH THING AS A B16A1"

not that it has got anything to do with the topic...

sorry to original poster ;)

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Originally Posted by Setanta

Gotcha buddy!!!

The UK and European EE9 Civic and EE8 CRX VT had a B16A1 in them. Unlike the JDM spec EF9 Civic and EF8 CRX, the "1" was stamped on the engine to read B16A1. The motor put out 150bhp as opposed to the JDM B16A's 160ps.

The statement should be: "There is no such thing as a JDM B16A1" :)

I'll PM CivicJim on the 4th gen forums and see if he still has the photo of his EE9's block number ::)

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BEDE aka Vtechnique on these forums said exactly thesame thing to me:

JDM B16A Gen one = B16A
UK B16A Gen one = B16A1

AUS B16A Gen two = B16A2
JDM B16A Gen two = B16A

would this be about right?

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Originally Posted by SINISTR

B16A1 comes out of Honda Civics SiRs and SiR CRXs from 1989-1991 (correct me if Im wrong)

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When referring to JDM, B16A = first gen... I NEVER refer to my engine as a B16A1, its not on the block. If I called it a B16A1, the assumption then is it's a euro.

1G B16As came in 3 flavours

JDM B16A 1million series in the XSi and RSi 'tegs.
JDM B16A 5million series in the EF8 CRX and EF9 Civic .
Euro B16A1 in the Euro EE8 CRX and EE9 Civic.

The yanks invernted the notion of there being a JDM B16A1... it's a convention, not a reality. Who gives a f*ck what the yanks think anyway :D

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Originally Posted by SINISTR

JDM B16A Gen two = B16A

would this be about right?

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JDM B16A Gen two = B16A2 as well - same designation as the Aussie counterpart but with 170ps rather than 160bhp.

The "2" is stamped on the block unlike the 1st gen's lack of number.

Cheers

Sorry - I was just pasting part of the email - sorry

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Originally Posted by Setanta

When referring to JDM, B16A = first gen... I NEVER refer to my engine as a B16A1, its not on the block. If I called it a B16A1, the assumption then is it's a euro.

1G B16As came in 3 flavours

JDM B16A 1million series in the XSi and RSi 'tegs.
JDM B16A 5million series in the EF8 CRX and EF9 Civic .
Euro B16A1 in the Euro EE8 CRX and EE9 Civic.

The yanks invernted the notion of there being a JDM B16A1... it's a convention, not a reality. Who gives a f*ck what the yanks think anyway :D

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But knowing were in oZ and there are no Euro B16A1s its just easier to differentiate between the generation like I said earlier.
I understand what you're saying so no stress there...

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Originally Posted by Jay

hey pplz
i knoe d main difference between the first gen b16a is dat its a single cam vtec and the newer ones have double
yet the power output is pretty much the same ?
116 kw or 160 hp
was wondering what are the main differences ?

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Anyway to answer your question........ lets just compare the JDM B16s.
FYI they where all DOHC.
The main differences where 1st Gen had Single Valve springs as opposed to dual and the CR was 10.2 in the first gens and 10.4 in the second.

my 3 first gen B16A's all had dual valve springs...

maybe you are thinking of the automatic versions of the B16A SPEEDCORE?

Appologies, yes the Auto 1st gen had single inlet and exhaust springs.

There is also debate whether *SOME* of the 1st Gen Manuals had dual on the intake side and single on the exhaust, which where seen in the B16 Integras of that time too.

As far as confirming this dual intake side and single exhaust side I can not speak from experience as I have not seen it in person.

Thanks for clearing that up Tinks! :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by SPEEDCORE

Thanks for clearing that up Tinks! :thumbsup:

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yes, well i have already been wrong once in this thread, just trying to get some credibility back ;)