for me...would never spend 10k on an b16a.....rather use that money to get a b16b conversion done or buy a DC2r instead?!!? also, imo "expensive stuff = good quality" doesn't always work on Honda car. :rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:
for me...would never spend 10k on an b16a.....rather use that money to get a b16b conversion done or buy a DC2r instead?!!? also, imo "expensive stuff = good quality" doesn't always work on Honda car. :rolleyes::rolleyes: :rolleyes:
hahah i dind't mean to mislead people when i said 10k... its just a quote from fast n furious..
I have no idea how much he spent on the car so .. thats the origin of the 10k
I went to a workshop called centrax today, i let them tried my car, what they said was "Slow" really shit mid range and said they used to have a b16a could beat wrx on drag with less mod than i got. (I dun have the LSD and ATS final drive yet, i am going to install them soon.) I was really sad... so i went to test with a dc2 VTI-R, i used to beat a stock dc2 vtir at 1st and 2nd, at 3rd gear we were both the same.. he did't come up and i didn't pull away till the end of 3rd.
After those people said my car is a joke, and they also had a thinking of that my exhaust system is a fake copy.. i went to race one of there customer just now, it was really fun.
This guy has a very nice dc2 vtir with full exhuast system and endless engine oil filter etc... his extractor is what people said the best manifold in the world, and cat back is 5zigen. THis extractor cost $1500 aud even more than a mugen one.
I found that the "maxi worx" extractor does increase power, yet most likely at mid range but not high end. We rev up to 4000rpm to start, at 1st was the same 2nd he pulls up a little bit, until 3rd gear i beat him at the high end, however 4th gear he pulled back up again. i lose as it was reaching the corner. It was really fun testing. And my mid range b4 vtec is really shit.. y ? something wrong.. who can help?
A dyno tuner asked me to take off the Toda cam said toda and spoon are crap.. kept on say the cam i have is worn out as i bought it second handed from my friend. They are trying to sell me a set of xxcxing expensive custom made cams for $920.. pissed me off... i trust toda man.. my friends all gain power from toda cams.
The thing is i found that they dun wanna fixed my problem, they dun wanna follow toda spec to do the valve clearance.. they even forgot what they did..
anyway i found that even this time i gained some power by tightening those applets as it was losing miles b4.
On the dyno graph with the A cam, i made power at the highend after vtec kicks in. thatz funny, my friend used to gained a bit of power at highend but a lot of gain on mid range. same as the other guy too.. i think they must not fit it porperly again.. i am totally screwed.. all these bad luck.. i can not afford 500 tuning everytime.. I tried APC, C&J, Charies.. no one could fixed my problem. everyone were saying i should make more power with all these.. but they dun give a shit. didn't even wanan help me to find out my problem.....coz they think honda is shit. asked me to fit put turbo in. ... :confused:
70mm TB is huge for the setup you have. Remember bigger isnt always better - i would seriously think about switching to an ITR TB.
ATSEK4.... I didn't say your car is shit... I just said it does not seem to have good mid range...As for beating WRX, yes I did against some friends who have GC8 and GD none sti.... but they both stock cars....(and my eg civic was tunned by different place as where you did yours) Also, as for DC2 Vtir they have variable intake chamber... thus its mid range is better and u will not feel that VTEC changes like the civic does...JD's vtir is got 200cc bigger in capacity... so...Quote:
Originally Posted by ATSEK4
Anyway I think Adrian from TODA can help you lots with the problem you are currently facing.... power is never really my field, thus we do not drag anymore we only do circuit racing....
I can argue that fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by todaek9
When i did my first exhaust mod - 4-1 header, high flow cat, 2 1/4 cat back and mugen muffler, i gained 10HP alone with the same car.
Now the point im argueing is where you said 40-50kw gain. I spent well under 10k to get from 160HP to 215HP. Just buy a JDM B18cR engine and drop that in. It is a direct bolt in job and theres 42kw right thurr ! :thumbsup: and mine isnt fully tuned yet ;)
Hey Chris, i didn't say you said my car is shit`!..you are really right, JD's Car is 1.8 his mid range supposed to be a lot better than mine. We have swapped our car last nite, and i found that his mid range is awesome i love it, this is 1.8 power? I really didn't feel the vtec kicks in like my civic. After we swapped it over again, i found that my car is really really really light comparing with jd's car, this is probably one of the reason that i could follow up..Quote:
Originally Posted by ENDLESS
I feel really happy for JD, as his car really gain a lot of power from the exhaust system. as i tested with a stock dc2 vtir last week. Should i be consider to get a maxi worx manifold to improve my mid range? coz JD said the manifold has big different on mid range.
Anyway, the suspension setting you did for my car is very good Thanks ! even the car is now higher, i found that i could drive a lot easier on the mountain and the car is not jumping that much anymore.
I dun like much drag racing actually, i would have put a turbo in if i like drag racing.. i just wanna test whether my car has any gain (always just testing not racing), i only go when i have done something else and test with the same car. Because i dun trust dyno anymore.
If i can stay in australia i will definitely aim on improving my skills on track. and i am going to learn from the queensland raceway champion u :p . please dun think i am just so stupid aiming on power but not skills. I have no time :( , i might leave australia at the end of next year, when i am back to hk i dun even drive anymore as you know hk.. and the only thing i wanna do is to successfully mod my car. Coz i had too much bad experiences with my vw... and spent too much time and money. I dun wanna regret the whole life by used to have an unsuccessful lose power civic. Please understand !
oh man.. you are doing the right thing by puting B18cR engine. what if you get defected and they found that your car is not 1.6?Quote:
Originally Posted by Civic Type R
you change the engine specs on the licence papers... so theres no problem there at all...Quote:
Originally Posted by ATSEK4
Vicent at least you have been there done that... I used to race on street when I was much younger (around 8~10 yrs ago)
I think improving on the skill is the best thing u can get... everyone can get a good and fast car... but skill... you will own it for life... come to the track more often I think lots of people will be happy to see you guys at the track.... and this is the only legal place for you to test out your car too;)
As for all the mods you have done, that car should be very fast...I believe toda cams are good (I used them too don't forget) and u can notice the difference more on the track too... (mods on the cars) so... u learn what is good and what is not... and who tell u the truth...(because all the tunner will tell you they are the best...so... who do you have to trust? the best way is to test it out)
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Originally Posted by SINISTR
exactly that, its legal to do ;)