Need your opinions - Buying my first Integra

Thanks ALOT for all your responses guys, they've been really helpful!

I think it would be really hard to find an Integra with a log book or service history as I don't think many people keep them.

What is a decent price for a VTI-R? Around $7,000-$7,500?


What are your opinions of these ones? Price is quite high though.

[ GSI ]
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9296779
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9569028
http://cars.ebay.com.au/1999-Honda-I...mZ390259195422
http://cars.ebay.com.au/1999-Honda-I...mZ160511742727

[ VTI-R ]
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9754385
http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9719490
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9133982
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=8942496
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9414483

im looking for a black 2002 and up TYPE R where can i buy one ive looked everywhere for it can someone help me!!!!!!!!

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Originally Posted by ellie123

im looking for a black 2002 and up TYPE R where can i buy one ive looked everywhere for it can someone help me!!!!!!!!

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Patience is a virtue

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Originally Posted by LostyJai

Thanks ALOT for all your responses guys, they've been really helpful!

I think it would be really hard to find an Integra with a log book or service history as I don't think many people keep them.

What is a decent price for a VTI-R? Around $7,000-$7,500?



What are your opinions of these ones? Price is quite high though.

[ GSI ]
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9296779
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9569028
http://cars.ebay.com.au/1999-Honda-I...mZ390259195422
http://cars.ebay.com.au/1999-Honda-I...mZ160511742727

[ VTI-R ]
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9754385
http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9719490
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9133982
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=8942496
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9414483

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Stay away from GSi, get a Vti-R. Like u said, 7-7.5K for a clean VTi-R with lower kilometres

You can find one with logbooks and receipts, they aren't that rare.

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Originally Posted by EVLGTR

Patience is a virtue

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umm yee but ive been looking and there arent many black ones seen other colours

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Originally Posted by LostyJai

Thanks ALOT for all your responses guys, they've been really helpful!

I think it would be really hard to find an Integra with a log book or service history as I don't think many people keep them.

What is a decent price for a VTI-R? Around $7,000-$7,500?


What are your opinions of these ones? Price is quite high though.

[ GSI ]
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9296779
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9569028
http://cars.ebay.com.au/1999-Honda-I...mZ390259195422
http://cars.ebay.com.au/1999-Honda-I...mZ160511742727

[ VTI-R ]
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9754385
http://www.carpoint.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9719490
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9133982
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=8942496
http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=9414483

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Nah mate, that's a cop out. Proper car owners who take care of their vehicles will always have a decent service history. If the car has been serviced properly, there will always be a history. If there isn't a history, the car hasn't been properly serviced, it's as simple as that. Worse still, you've got nothing to ensure that the kilometres are genuine. You run a very strong risk of picking one up with crap in the engine and high kilometres.

Be patient, and find one with service history. Ring around the Honda dealers in your state, and tell them to ring you when they get a decent example traded in. There are a lot on CarSales that seem okay, but then when you actually check them out, you realise how much the owner is hiding. Expect the worst from anyone who is trying to sell a car privately, as more often than not they'll be dishonest, at least to some extent.

Of those cars:

VTI-R
1: Says "always service", not "service history". Expect them to say "Oh, I had my friend who is a mechanic service it."
2: No RWC, so forget it. Why the respray? Has it been in an accident? Kms are also a bit high. No service history.
3: No service history, and it's been lowered. Depends on what kind of job they did, but the handling and ride will be worse off with a shit job. Plus the exhaust and air filter, which make it far from stock.
4: Yeah, they last well when they're looked after, but 188,000kms with no mention of a service history? That's a lot of poor treatment. Plus the mods suggest it may have been thrashed, and is now being sold because it's costing money.
5: It's GREEN. Yuck. But also, "a few scratches and dings due to its age" is not a decent excuse on a car that is only 12 years old. They act as if all cars get beaten up in a decade. They don't. If people drive properly, it doesn't happen. That's why there are so many cars from 1998 that are still in perfect condition, because those people treat their cars well. It mentions the service, but whether or not they have a history for it is another story. Again, they've modded it, and aren't providing a roadworthy. Don't touch a car without a RWC. Finally "Price has been dropped" translates to "Nobody is stupid enough to buy this... yet." Plus, it's GREEN.

As for the GSis...

1: This is what you want to see. Full service history, RWC, one owner. No encumbrance or RWO status. The only problem is, the price is a little bit high for those kms.
2: Log books, but no RWC? I don't like the way this ad reads, and I wouldn't even look at it.
3: I have no experience with buying a car off eBay, but at least it's from a dealer, so there's some form of warranty. Unfortunately, most 'warranties' from small dealerships aren't worth the paper they're written on. RWC, of course, but no service history. Still, the price is right, but unless you can check the car out in person, you'd be crazy to buy it.
4: Says nothing at all about the car, just a generic comment. You'd go down and have a look, see what kind of history it has, if any. Again, the price is more reasonable, and at least from a dealership you have some form of guarantee.

Overall, you've got VTI-Rs and GSis there, some at similar prices. You're better off spending 8k on a GSi in good condition than 8k on a clapped-out VTI-R with higher kms. I'd spend more on a GSi with service history than I would on a VTI-R without it. Don't cut corners, or you'll end up with a piece of shit that's more trouble than it's worth. If it's too daunting, just get a Civic or a Corolla. Or an Accord. You're more likely to find one of those in good condition with history for a good price. If you really want a Teg, though, you're going to have to hold out for the right one, and not be tempted by a potentially dodgy one. There are just too many out there, unfortunately. Good luck.

Wow dude thanks alot for the huge review of all the cars, you've been really helpful. I will definitely wait out till I can find one with log book and service history. Thanks again dude, much appreciated!

First ones (VTiR) worth a look though. I'd ask but looks like its been garaged.

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Originally Posted by shake

First ones (VTiR) worth a look though. I'd ask but looks like its been garaged.

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Unfortunately he has no log book or service history.

log book helps, but they can be fudged, so it's good if they have actual reciepts of work done.

As a general rule, a well maintained high K car can be in better nick than one with low Ks and badly maintained. A car with say 90,000 on the clock and no service history could have been driven for 40,000 ks without a service, or, more seriously, had an instrument cluster swap and could in reality have 200,000+ done on the engine.

And of course, don't buy a car with more than 240,000kms on the clock. If you do, get your wallet ready for potential repairs.

Ok so I had another look through carsales, ebay and gumtree for VTI-R... finally found one with complete log book and full service history:

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=8549078

Seems like it's pretty well maintained, any opinions before I go have a look?

No worries, mate.

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Originally Posted by LostyJai

Ok so I had another look through carsales, ebay and gumtree for VTI-R... finally found one with complete log book and full service history:

http://www.carsales.com.au/all-cars/...aspx?R=8549078

Seems like it's pretty well maintained, any opinions before I go have a look?

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Definitely have a look. The kms are low, and he's supplying a RWC. He's also claiming a full Honda dealer service history, which means that you can ask them about the car if you like. He's also put tasteful wheels and a (relatively) tasteful plate on it, and it looks like it's in good nick. Basically, check this one out, because it looks to be a decent example. He's made some modifications to it, which may not be the best thing, but it's that service history and genuine kms that you really need to be looking for, so check it out. Good luck! Just don't fall in love with it, ask all the right questions, and see how it goes.