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Linkage installed on Saturday (with assistance from KB)...
it's fkn AMAZING the difference !!
TINY tiny shift throws, super-direct feel.. perfect shift lever height.. I love it !!
everyone who tried it on the weekend was also impressed.
HONDAR > can you get any more linkage kits ? I think I can move a few more now after this !!
I sold my Type R linkage and put a spoon linkage in :thumbsup: Slight difference but still a better difference ^_-
Spermz.. do you have any pics of the spoon linlkage before installation ?
I have the spoon catalogue at home and I couldnt pick any difference and i'd heard that Spoon actually re-sells the OEM Honda ITR linkage but I dont know that sounds dodgy.
was spoon linkage more expensive than type R ?
I believe that the spoon linkage is slightly shorter then oem linkage. One of the traders sell em for 300 odd dollars. Part from that i cant tell ne difference either. oh yeah oem linkage i had was black with gold tip where spoon is fulll goldy.
Hmm interesting.. my ITR linkage were both all goldy bling..
hmmm spoon linkage is all gold in colour... my ITR linkage was all black - spoon item is definitely thicker and more direct... if you use spoon bushings as well, it is game over to the ITR shifter...
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Originally Posted by type one
I purchased 2 complete sets of type R linkages and shifters and bushings from HONDAR - was JDM type R.. the linkages are ALL gold and the selector rod (lower) is at least twice the thickness of non typeR shift linkages.
from what I can tell from the spoon catalogue there is no difference - and I have heard that Spoon actually re-stocks the OEM part.
What about the spoon one makes it 'game over' to the type R item ?? I seriously could not imagine it being any better. just saying GAME OVER isnt really saying anything bro - you need to say WHY or WHAT makes it better.
now I am not saying in any way that the spoon item isnt as good as OEM, but I am trying to establish what is different about it or if it actually IS the HONDA item re-badged.
By your username i assume you know all about Type One, and how it is Spoon-Sports Tuning division/workshop/R+D.. And I assume that you know that spoon doesnt manufacture many of it's own parts from scratch, rather commision quality manufacturers to supply them with their products, sometimes tailored/modified to spoon's specifications.
For example, the Braces, exhausts etc. are made by VISION TECHNICA.
The calipers and pads are by NISSIN.
Shocks and springs are by SHOWA.
Transmissions are OEM Honda Type R with revised Ratios and internals.
SW38 Rims by some Russian company (!!)..
So with Spoon supplying modified Honda Tranny's, obvioulsy they'd supply the linkages to suit the box - thus type R.
they MAY have some slight modifications - and that is what I am trying to establish.. not just "Game Over"..
**Adam slaps himself**
This is taken from the AJ Racing website:
The Spoon change rod is a stock Honda unit that has been stiffened and reinforced by Spoon. By making this modification to the shift linkage, there is a more solid and precise shifting feel. Highly recommended for cars older than 50,000km, as normal use over time will have weakened the metal at the end of the change rod, making shifting feel sloppy and soft.
thanks EKslut !! that's all I wanted a bit of an explanation more than "game over" ghetto talk ;P
adam why you injuring yourself ? HAHA
why?
Because i pulled out of purchasing the ITR shift linkage from Type One :(
sorry to disappoint you with my ghetto talk hahaha... i mustn't have made myself clear... I have used both items and this is my humble opinion...
if you read my comments prior to saying "game over" i did mention the fact that the linkage is a reinforced item
(how does a company who has been involved in motorsports for the last 30 years just take a product from Honda then simply re-badge it without adding any value to it? - do you think Honda would allow them to do this? have you even thoguht about your comment regarding the two items being the same?)
Where do ITR owners go when they have the "BEST" linkage on the market?? What can they buy to make their shift more direct??
I expect other forumers to do their own research as well... thanks ekslut for not being a lazy ass and actually checking it out for him/themselves...
I had more to say but you are an OH member and i RESPECT that... enough said.