I think the throw out bearing on my gearbox is on it's way out

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Originally Posted by EG52NV

Is the isb the one attached to the flywheel and at the very end of the input shaft? Or is it in the gearbox?

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isb (input shaft bearing) is the thing that the input shaft spins on, kinda hard to explain without pictures lol. Seems its a common problem on alot of older cars.

To replace it, well on my engine/gearbox, d16, i will have to take apart the gb, than pull apart the housing to access and remove the bearing itself which is a big task in its own right, but not something that cannot be done if u have some mechanical knowledge and patient. If i cannot find a replacement gearbox, for a low price, than im gonna end up on replacing the actual bearing itself as opposed to replacing it with another gb for 2 reasons. 1. The problem will most likely arise again with another 2nd hand gb. and 2, my gearbox is harder to come by, an newer so odds are its still gonna cost the same as replacing the bearing itself if i was to pay a shop to do it.

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Originally Posted by mugen_ctr

isb (input shaft bearing) is the thing that the input shaft spins on, kinda hard to explain without pictures lol. Seems its a common problem on alot of older cars.

To replace it, well on my engine/gearbox, d16, i will have to take apart the gb, than pull apart the housing to access and remove the bearing itself which is a big task in its own right, but not something that cannot be done if u have some mechanical knowledge and patient. If i cannot find a replacement gearbox, for a low price, than im gonna end up on replacing the actual bearing itself as opposed to replacing it with another gb for 2 reasons. 1. The problem will most likely arise again with another 2nd hand gb. and 2, my gearbox is harder to come by, an newer so odds are its still gonna cost the same as replacing the bearing itself if i was to pay a shop to do it.

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to remove the bearing is not a big task. just light tap with mallet using screw driver.
pushing it back in also use mallet, light taps on outer race.

the one attached to flywheel is pilot bearing. not mainshaft bearing/ISB.

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Originally Posted by mocchi

to remove the bearing is not a big task. just light tap with mallet using screw driver.
pushing it back in also use mallet, light taps on outer race.

the one attached to flywheel is pilot bearing. not mainshaft bearing/ISB.

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Yeah after I read it a few times all the different types of bearings seems to make sense...

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Originally Posted by mocchi

to remove the bearing is not a big task. just light tap with mallet using screw driver.
pushing it back in also use mallet, light taps on outer race.

the one attached to flywheel is pilot bearing. not mainshaft bearing/ISB.

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cool cool, ill have to remember that one, pilot bearing lol....

When it comes to buying the bearing do i just go to honda an order it through or best to go to a ball bearing specialist?

Just go to Honda . Note they often will take time to order in.

IF you have time to drop the box open urself - I would take out the old bearing/a , note the serials and go to a bearing supplier and order them in. Honda IS exactly the same but more expensive

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Originally Posted by bennjamin

Just go to Honda . Note they often will take time to order in.

IF you have time to drop the box open urself - I would take out the old bearing/a , note the serials and go to a bearing supplier and order them in. Honda IS exactly the same but more expensive

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fuarking listen to this guy. i recently had same exact experience.

bought oem lsd bearing from honda US for $50, realised that i need another one so i called honda AU
they want $120+gst ea.























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so i went to 'bearing wholesalers' (thats the actual shop name) and they got one same specs for $20.
same enclosed bearing made in japan.

farrrkkk that LOL, sounds like bearing place is the only way to buy it hahahhaha, will start pulling the box out this coming wed an let ya know how things go :)

i actually made a thread a while back for the supplier of this bearing in aus. worked out really cheap too :) i got Bennjamin to do mine for me, i highly reccomend him to any one, however you are in vic :(

doesn't matter what you do your gonna be up for the labour of pulling the box out and putting it in.
Don't cut corners, or you'll end up puling the box out twice.
The most expensive part of doing a clutch etc is pulling the box out.

if your only reading youtube i'd recommend you stay away from doing the clutch unless you have someone who knows what they are doing with you.
I've done 3 boxes, on different type of cars. Basically the same on most cars.
BUT Its a dirty job and i actually get other people to do it nowadays rather than doing it myself.

Yeah bens offered his charming assistance, just waiting to get car back from GPC after HG change.

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Originally Posted by EG52NV

Benny, car makes weird noises when I depress the clutch or leave it in neutral after a short drive.

Another thing is when I start the car from cold put it in first accelerate and when I take my foot off the acc and let the gears do the work the tranny seems to be noisy as hell..

So what you people reckon my problem is? YouTube vids about how clutch works do not seem to indicate my symptoms are throw out bearing related.

I just spent an hour on YouTube and I reckon of it's to do with clutch I should be able to do the complete clutch change myself plus a mate to help lift gb back in place. new pilot bearing, throw out bearing, flywheel, pressure plate and friction material amazing what you can learn on YouTube.

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has this same problem last year with my D15b7 box - i left it until it got worse and i could save up some money
went to a wrecker and bought myself a JDM D15b box (S20 B000) - the one with the better ratios - for $600
than jumped on ebay america and got myself an exedy/daiken O.E. Clutch kit with exedy 10lbs flywheel for $200
paid my mate whos a mechanic a couple of hundred to swap it all out on his hoist with new fluids and new drain bolt etc

car runs like a dream now
saved me a lot of headaches with part numbers and trying to recon etc

yeh dude ...your ISB or they call it the Main Bearings (3 of them) are goneskies..

had the same problem with my B gbox ..

took it to Hanis for a quote to replace all 3 bearings only was 650 drive in and drive out.

so i said ill shop round for a 2nd hand ...and there was 1 but they were asking 600 for it ...so i said fk dat shit (FDS)

shopped around for a rebuild/reco box.. one place was asking 1k ..FDS again ..and rang outside of NSW and got a FULLY RECO box ...all synchros, bearings, seals, new ...got it for 650 delivered to my door.

funny thing is my box seems or might have LSD which they had no idea of. lol ...bonus for me.

now my old box is sitting in the parts room collecting dust. but i think ill get the 3 bearings replaced and use it for spare as there was no other problems.


unfortunately bro...there is no other way around it you'd be spending at least 500+ incl labour costs etc.

but i would not recommend a 2nd hand box unless u knw who the previous driver was ..you just dont know the condition of it.

my 2cents yo!