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One would assume "improved production" would not allow engine swaps.

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Originally Posted by nigs

One would assume "improved production" would not allow engine swaps.

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Yeah it does allow engine swaps. As long it under the 2l capacity and carry a small weight penalty.

Some of the improved productions rules are a little grey

Ah, weight penalty

Does anyone know what times this car is doing? Would have thought that would be the main selling point

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Originally Posted by GSi_PSi

Bit pricey, could do a jdm k20a engine for that kind of $$$ still in the U2L class and much more competitive with 6-speed and factory 158kw...
whats the rules with improved production though regarding engine swaps

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Same manufacturer as body is OK. Under 2 Litres would be K20A. There are already some running in NSW.

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Originally Posted by nigs

One would assume "improved production" would not allow engine swaps.

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Engine swaps no problem as long as you stay with the same manufacturer as noted by Benson. You have to abide by a minimum weight though.

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Originally Posted by vtecing

Does anyone know what times this car is doing? Would have thought that would be the main selling point

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Ad says its a Nov 2011 logbook so it may not have seen the track yet. No one registered to compete in Victoria by that name for 2011. The "18B" suggests it may have been built to compete in the 6 Hour Relay in Victoria but I'd say it hasn't been run yet.

(Update): Did a bit of a search and Andrew Howell belongs to the Geelong (or Gippsland) Car Club. He ran the 6 Hour Regularity Trial, was 30th fastest out of 252 cars at Phillip Island. Fastest car was a VY Commodore at 1:52.6. Slowest was a VK Commodore at 2:50.8. This car ran a 1:58.8 and was part of the winning team. He has owned a couple of different Civics and it looks like he sold his old 1973 one and built this, but may have decided to get out of racing.

You could always ring the guy and ask him but, speed isn't everything. If it ran the 6 Hour it would also have to be very reliable too. I've done a few of these and they really show up the under-prepared and over-stressed cars!

Peter

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Originally Posted by Benson

Yeah it does allow engine swaps. As long it under the 2l capacity and carry a small weight penalty.

Some of the improved productions rules are a little grey

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Oh for a moment I thought you said "gay"so I was going to agree.

I would always prefer to buy someone else's build if its done right,if effort and money has already been put in and well sorted they are usually always bargains in the long run.

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Originally Posted by jdm_b16a

You could build it for much less than that but that's my opinion. The advantage here is that all the hard work is done but if you gave yourself 12 months, you could come up with something just as quick if not quicker.

I'm not saying this is not worth the asking price as there may be things that we can't see in the photos.

Peter

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What does12 months labour amount to ?More than the asking price methinks.

I think its all relative. To people like us who live and breath Hondas, and know everything about them, where to get all the good stuff for cheap, yeah, im sure we could build something just as competitive for a lot less. Especially given the amount of people that DIY.

However, get somebody who isnt so much into this scene, theyre gonna go for all the big brand name stuff, get other people to do all the work, and just write out cheques for it.

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Originally Posted by trism

I think its all relative. To people like us who live and breath Hondas, and know everything about them, where to get all the good stuff for cheap, yeah, im sure we could build something just as competitive for a lot less. Especially given the amount of people that DIY.

However, get somebody who isnt so much into this scene, theyre gonna go for all the big brand name stuff, get other people to do all the work, and just write out cheques for it.

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You are missing the point .The car is already built so the sum of parts and time are already there, even with diy one has to take into consideration the time.
For an example I can earn more per hour doing my job so it would be cheaper for me to pay someone to do the build .The labour content is never ever free really.
And Mr Howell has been involved with building and racing Hondas longer than the average age of Ozhonda members.It would be interesting if someone was doing a racecar build took the time to document all the costs even time.We will always get differing opinions and I suppose I'm voicing mine,through experience though.