Coil overs vs Koni yellows and King spring

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Originally Posted by EKVTIR-T

Depend how fat your ass is for road to butt comfort ratio

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Might need some Kim Kardashian for anything above 16kg

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Originally Posted by Honda_FD

Coilovers arent necessarily Stiff or "Bone Jarring" Most BC coilovers have a 6:6kg front and rear with Damper Adjustments.
Im running BC BR Gold Series with 10:8 springs and on the Softest settings its not event bad.

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that is where people seem to go huh and not enquire any further

damper adjustments between marshmallow and bread? or rock and concrete?


Also don't forget that different cars have different configurations and effective spring rates depending on the suspension design

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Originally Posted by curtis265

that is where people seem to go huh and not enquire any further

damper adjustments between marshmallow and bread? or rock and concrete?


Also don't forget that different cars have different configurations and effective spring rates depending on the suspension design

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Thats true. But with 6:6 spring rate. Max Damper isnt going to be as stiff and people think it is.
I cant say that it will be soft and what not because my car has had coilovers in them for a while now
so having 10:8 isnt uncomfortable for me cause I'm used to it.

But stock suspension with lowered springs to 6:6 coilovers. I wouldnt say there is alot of different with the cars stiffness

But like I said. comes down to personal preferences

Coilovers are useless for street cars. The majority are way oversprung and not only does this massively decrease ride comfort, it also actually decreases the grip of your car in a lot of street situations. With an overly stiff spring your suspension and hence your wheels lose the ability to follow the road surface where it is not racetrack-like flat. People spend thousands on coilovers then run a spring so stiff their fancy damper doesnt even get the opportunity to do anything useful.

I'd go for the Konis with a reasonable spring rate. They will be much better for the street than a cheap poorly damped coilover, even one with a lower than usual spring rate.

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Originally Posted by curtis265

that is where people seem to go huh and not enquire any further

damper adjustments between marshmallow and bread? or rock and concrete?

Also don't forget that different cars have different configurations and effective spring rates depending on the suspension design

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Dem Feelz, so correct, try a 10:8 in an EG then in an EP/EU XD

You'll be like WTF, concrete up much?

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Originally Posted by rhys.l

Coilovers are useless for street cars. The majority are way oversprung and not only does this massively decrease ride comfort, it also actually decreases the grip of your car in a lot of street situations. With an overly stiff spring your suspension and hence your wheels lose the ability to follow the road surface where it is not racetrack-like flat. People spend thousands on coilovers then run a spring so stiff their fancy damper doesnt even get the opportunity to do anything useful.

I'd go for the Konis with a reasonable spring rate. They will be much better for the street than a cheap poorly damped coilover, even one with a lower than usual spring rate.

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I'd just like to clarify something.

The ground control kit is still a very streetable setup, they don't have much provision for running slammed like the other types of coilovers, but they will certainly give you enough adjustment for what you need on the street and track. I ran Koni RACE shocks (shortened) with GC kit and they were by far the best combo I have ever had. I will admit to have them done properly you will more than likely need the top had spherical extenders and helper springs to keep the spring captive at full droop.

This is usually too much trouble for the average guy so my advice is buy the cheapest coilover you can find (while still being a known item - not total junk) and you will be satisfied..

Cheers,

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Originally Posted by Honda_FD

Coilovers arent necessarily Stiff or "Bone Jarring" Most BC coilovers have a 6:6kg front and rear with Damper Adjustments.
Im running BC BR Gold Series with 10:8 springs and on the Softest settings its not event bad.

Where did you get your quote for your BC Coilovers? $1,800 is HEAPS for BC BR Gold Series.
I got mine for $1,150 with Custom Springs & Camber Top.

Did you ask Suspension City in North Melbourne for Koni Shocks? They've been around for
for than 20 years so talk to them. They may be old but they know their shit.

If you do decide to get coilovers let me know and I'll see if I can get them for you at the same price.


I heard GAB isnt too bad aswell. Brand new
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...BC-cams./page4

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Thanks for the offer Honda_FD.. Damian from Suspension City is very knowledgeable and super friendly. He was the one that put in my original Kings. I spoke to him about a week ago and interestingly does not sell coilovers but will install them. He said he installs quite a few BC's for Tyrepower next door and recommended the Koni's.

The BC's were quoted installed / aligned by Chris at Centreline. Very friendly and knowledgeable as well. Both places were very helpful.

I was talking to some other forumites and they also spoke highly of the AMR coilover. Andy from AMR suggested 6/8 coilovers and a lead time of about 3 weeks for them to be mad for an EK. He quoted $1535 usd for a set of 450/350 custom coilovers. I am leaning towards these at the moment.

Question is though if your a DIY or getting pro's to install them, other than an alignment, is anything else necessary. I did some research and another shop said you would need to do a corner balance as well as an alignment and wait a week or two after installation of coilovers before you get an alignment?

Thanks for the comments guys.

I pretty much got a wheel alignment straight away, after installing my super streets my wheel alignment was way off about 1/2 a turn lol. DIY the Best

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Originally Posted by Astrodice

Thanks for the offer Honda_FD.. Damian from Suspension City is very knowledgeable and super friendly. He was the one that put in my original Kings. I spoke to him about a week ago and interestingly does not sell coilovers but will install them. He said he installs quite a few BC's for Tyrepower next door and recommended the Koni's.

The BC's were quoted installed / aligned by Chris at Centreline. Very friendly and knowledgeable as well. Both places were very helpful.

I was talking to some other forumites and they also spoke highly of the AMR coilover. Andy from AMR suggested 6/8 coilovers and a lead time of about 3 weeks for them to be mad for an EK. He quoted $1535 usd for a set of 450/350 custom coilovers. I am leaning towards these at the moment.

Question is though if your a DIY or getting pro's to install them, other than an alignment, is anything else necessary. I did some research and another shop said you would need to do a corner balance as well as an alignment and wait a week or two after installation of coilovers before you get an alignment?

Thanks for the comments guys.

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Yeah. Suspension City is a well known distributor for Koni, Kings, Eibach and some other brand of shocks. I forgot.
But yes. They are VERY good at their job and very helpful. They installed my coilovers for me once. Quick and easy.

TyrePower North Melbourne sells alot of suspension parts aswell. Ask for Mark when you go in. They distribute BC BR, Megan,
Skunk2 and heaps more.

OR you can try OTR in Clayton. They have ALOT of high performance parts but they're bit of an asshole. They discriminate
and look down on Honda people. But their prices and items are very good.

I've never owned an EK or have done anything to their suspension but im pretty sure its generally the same.
Install them, Doesnt matter who, Set to desired height and you can get an Alignment any time.
You dont necessarily have to wait two weeks. That two week wait is for the coilovers to settle in.
Most coilovers will drop another 3-5mm after they settle in.

But I would say take your time and do research then decide what you want. Dont rush into buying stuff like that and regret it later.
End up wasting $1,000 Do it once, Do it right

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Originally Posted by Honda_FD

I've never owned an EK or have done anything to their suspension but im pretty sure its generally the same.

Install them, Doesnt matter who, Set to desired height and you can get an Alignment any time.
You dont necessarily have to wait two weeks. That two week wait is for the coilovers to settle in.
Most coilovers will drop another 3-5mm after they settle in.

But I would say take your time and do research then decide what you want. Dont rush into buying stuff like that and regret it later.
End up wasting $1,000 Do it once, Do it right

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EK very different setup to FD spec wise, Double Wishbone ---> Macpherson. Generally more of a pain to get the Macpherson to a level I found satisfactory without going to a track setup ><

Everything else, spot on ;)

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Originally Posted by DreadAngel

EK very different setup to FD spec wise, Double Wishbone ---> Macpherson. Generally more of a pain to get the Macpherson to a level I found satisfactory without going to a track setup ><

Everything else, spot on ;)

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Yeah. Thats why i said that I've never owned or have had any experience with them.
But the Internet is a very helpful tool nowadays.

Just print this out or bring your laptop to the garage and follow the steps
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=158121

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Originally Posted by Honda_FD

Yeah. Thats why i said that I've never owned or have had any experience with them.
But the Internet is a very helpful tool nowadays.

Just print this out or bring your laptop to the garage and follow the steps
http://www.clubcivic.com/board/showthread.php?t=158121

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Npz man, wasn't @ you ;)

Just helping others looking at thread to know difference between EK and FD Chassis :)