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Yeah ur offset on ur wheels are too low if it is scrappn on 8 inch wide rims...
I'm using 19x9 rims and i have no scrappn at a all... My front is real low but my back needs the guards rolled as well if i want it to go any lower...
Pricing is around $80-$90 for both back ones...
when I had the rear guards rolled on my previous car (Camry). the penal shop boss did it himself for me. he also used heat gum to soften the paint around the guard a bit before he start rolling the guard, he did a little bit at the time, reapply heat between rollings.. didnt have any issue with paint cracking with mine.
I use 19x8.5 (front) and 19x9.5 (rear). I need to roll the guard for both front & rear. When i first rolled the guard i used 235 for my rear tyre and when i change to 245 it begin to scrap the guard badly cause my rear suspension is too low. Then the person who rolled the guard decided to move my rear wheel few cm to the front and now the rear wheel never scrap the guard eventhough my suspension still to low. When i did the wheel alignment the person told me that it's too low and already full negative chamber.
http://www.atjo.org/permaisuri/endut05.jpg
http://www.atjo.org/permaisuri/endut04.jpg
Atjo:
The inside edge of your rear tyres must wear like mad!..
what do you mean by "moving the rear wheel few cm to the front"? Do you mean they make your rear wheels toe-in??
They moved the center of the wheel few cm to the front so the rear section of the guard doesn't scrub the tyre.Quote:
Originally Posted by PNR888
Do you mean the offset of the wheel on the rear is more than the front thus enabling the wheel to sit behind the guard?
Fark the tyres man - what about the car! That set up is just asking for trouble IMO. Wrong offset, wrong size width, etc, etc. Lets see how the bearings and suspension linkages look down the track. And that is before you even ask the question - is it legal?Quote:
Originally Posted by PNR888
As long as people know what they are getting into that is cool with me. I just worry about some noob reading this forum and thinking - cool 9.5" rims are fine on the Euro as long as I roll the guards. There are more important questions to think about (and the most important should always be - is this going to be legal in my state) :rolleyes: I can only shake my head in disbelief sometimes - what happens if you crash the car and insurance doesn't pay out? (you don't need to answer the question BTW)
When i first seen pictures of his car, i also raised this 'legal' issue. I, too, feel very strongly about this. He didnt seem to care because apparently 'cops dont check' then i reminded him it was the insurance company you should be more worried about.Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
Each to their own i guess, you wouldnt do what i did, i wouldnt do what you did, but atleast we both wouldnt do what he did :D :D
I don't want to be hard on the guy - it is his car not mine. I just want to warn noobies out there to think about all the issues before committing to mods that may piss $35k+ down the drain if they write off the car. Make sure you tell your insurance company everything and do your best to make sure everything is kept kosher. That is all you can do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrarista
Totally agree, the cops are the last of your problems. :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
I've got an euro and i must admit i'm still young and stupid and i've dropped my euro a fair bit & the negative camber you will recieve you wont rub at the rear at all. I'd be more worried about the front from what i've read.
Once i put the fulcrum camber kit in it went from stock -4.5 too -2.5 so i wouldn't chew the tires & kill the bearings/linkages & bushes. And i'm running 0 toe with the kit which makes rear tire wear alot eaiser to control.
And i actually work for an insurance company. And prety much you can do get away with lowering your car & smashing it (touch wood) & you will still recieve a payout.. But they may ask for an increased exces.
(I wouldn't recommend it though)
Tell your insurance company everything and if you can't afford the high prices of insurance, you can't afford the car or the extra mods. Here's a pic os my rear wheel running -2.5 camber (didn't take one with the -4.5 :( )
http://onfinite.com/libraries/638090/68a.jpg
You can see the part of the tire shine showing the part of the tire that didn't touch the ground! That's from 5,000km's without a camber kit until i put the camber kit on and swapped rear tires around. (got lost in the mail)
I'm running a 235/35/19 on a 8.0x wide rim that has been machined to a +43 or a +45 (can't remember) offset & never had to roll the guards and never scrapes. The front sits right on top of the tire aswell.
Have a look at some more pics & see how low the front is and i'm only running a stock -0.5 camber with 0 toe http://tknova.onfinite.com/album/482045/ & she's pretty low too :D
Remember, tell your insurance company everything about yourself & your car. But about the legal side, Well. I just can't help it & will have to deal with the fines if i ever get one (been pulled over & had no issue yet) but you can't put old heads on young shoulders can you.. :) I'll learn one day.
Tknova - how are things looking with the -2.5 camber in terms of tyre wear? That is about what mine is running now. A Honda mechanic at Honda north in Perth told me to wait on a camber kit (but to double check the toe is right).