converting kw's to kw's at the wheels

Here are some actual dyno figures perforemed on the same dyno same day... Not all are stock though....

DC2 vtir 92.5
DC2R 110
DC5R 109.8
RX8 Rotary 125
DC2R 102.2
DC5R 119 (4th gear run at owners request 122.1)
DC5R 100.7
200SX Sr20 174
EK4 89.5 (so close to the 90!)
DC5R 122
DC2R 106.7 (for a stock dc2, this car is awesome!)
DC5R 111.7
EM1 124.5
DC2R 94.7
DC2R 109.2

[QUOTE=q_ball]who told u that?
vtir's comes round about 90 - the gsi a bit under once more.[/QUOTE

I dyno my stock dc2r and i got the figure

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Originally Posted by thanh

I dyno my stock dc2r and i got the figure

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mustve been underperforming at some rate dude...
majority of dc2r owners that ive spoken to have produced 100+ all the time
tho i do understand that its not always the case

different dyno different output

any result for a d16y4???

dont hold me to this but i remember reading ages ago that the loss in FWD is about 20%, the loss in RWD is about 30% and the loss in 4WD was a little more again. Same deal though....every car is different but that is roughly the loss.

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Originally Posted by Mugen boy

basicaly every motor is different, wether asembled by the same person , parts differ in weight ect, and as long as they are within a certain range honda uses them , so some people end up with freak motors they make 10-15kw more than that of a engine that runs to spec, it all about luck of the draw buddy , but as i said above 100-110 kw would be you best bet

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That is such BULLSHIT!!!!! Honda does not do such crude workmanship esp on R's the parts are all balanced and precission made, If Honda had such crap suppliers with such inconsitensies they would get rid of them and get someone else to make the parts. Anyway where do get such crap from?? :confused:

im tellin yous...
a stock dc2r will run about 100-110kw atw - say 105 jst to be average!!
it should always run that unless of course uve done a couple small mods ere and there
remember, doin mods and not gettin it tuned/done rite can actualy giv you a loss of power!

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Originally Posted by tegstar83

That is such BULLSHIT!!!!! Honda does not do such crude workmanship esp on R's the parts are all balanced and precission made, If Honda had such crap suppliers with such inconsitensies they would get rid of them and get someone else to make the parts. Anyway where do get such crap from?? :confused:

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"DC2R 106.7
DC2R 94.7"

ABove is figures for two stock type r's which proves Mugen Boy's theory. Honda is not some super duper invinsible company where the employees have no emotions and everything is done 100% perfectly with no mistakes....

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Originally Posted by IRI

"DC2R 106.7
DC2R 94.7"

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agree with u 100% there IRI
well the 1st one sounds bout rite...
dun kno wat the 2nd one was runnin...owner has been farked ova IMO
mustve been a seriously de-tuned jap spec that they sent over here lol
majority that ive come across have always been in the 100-110 bracket

Also the wheels that you have on also has a bearing on the dyno figure. If you have big heavy 18" wheels you're going to "lose" up to 5-6kW. Remember that there is extra weight the engine has to spin up and that weight is on the outside of the wheel circumference since its bigger.

go watch best motoring vol 1 type R legend and go and see the two R's wich are two years a part run exact quater times and Honda is company where they....... U know what there japs there company runs on precision and efficiency go look at how a honda is put together and then go and look at some other mob then talk