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Originally Posted by tegstar83
who are you refering to tegstar???
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Originally Posted by tegstar83
who are you refering to tegstar???
I think in terms of cost probably not much short of using nitous anyway, which is probably why noone does it. also refills are probably about the same anyway.
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Originally Posted by garett
Exactly, oxygen is not flamable. Oxygen only 'burns' in the rattle gun because the rattle gun is full of flamable lube oil. Using oxygen on your car would be just like nitrous, except you would need much larger nozzles and lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by aimre
Nitrous is much more dense because it is in the liquid state. Oxygen is stored in the cylinder as a gas. Therefore you will need a much greater volume of oxygen gas than you would liquid nitrous to have the same effect.
i would say you going to blow up something if you pump pure O2 into the car intake manifold..
what aimre said is right O2 by itself doesnt "explode" but then again compressed air in a tank if ruptured would cause an explosion but not a burning explosion it would be just an expansion of air which is an explosion in a sence.. like a balloon filled with air when you prick it it explodes that kind of explosion .. u never going to see pure O2 burning without the pressence of like what aimre said some form of hydrocarbon.
and if air is 22% oxygen and Nitrous is umm 33% was it =P..
if compressed air can damage your engine even with the right tune your already forcing your engine to do things it wasent capable of doing at just normal atmospheric temperature and nos is 33% that can cause heaps of damage already.. would you be suicidal enough to put compressed PURE!!! oxygen into your engine!?
even jet engines use compressed air
rockets use solid state fuel and ingnited in air.. (the solidstate has something in it thought that helps it burn in space though i dont know what)
we are talking 100% pure oxygen been pumped into your car.. this in any sence is more volotile than putting in nos. and think about it how much of a squirt would u need to get a bottle of O2.. they cost a bomb.. O2 has medical uses and i think its not easy getting either.. but yeh someone suicidal would really wanna try this..
and you would run out of it soo quickly if you managed to use it..
there has to be a reason why no one tried it yet =P
I agree with wlee2 just the point about
Quote:"compressed air can damage your engine even with the right tune your already forcing your engine to do things it wasent capable of doing at just normal atmospheric temperature and nos is 33% that can cause heaps of damage already.. would you be suicidal enough to put compressed PURE!!! oxygen into your engine!?"
would be enough to point out that its a dumb idea.
Basically compressed O2 itself is not flammable..
if combined with a a hydrocarbon or watever.. the pure O2 will intensify the combustion..
also compressed O2 + grease is an explosive mixture.. That's why if anyone has ever used an oxyacetylene torch.. they will know never to grease the valves of the oxygen tank.
remember for complete combustion a ratio of air to fuel is 14.7:1
by having such a pure amount of oxygen will make it a lot easier to ignite if added with a fuel..
Advantages: yes u'll get more power..but the engine isn't designed for that much power..unless u know for sure honda has tested the combustion of all their engines with pure oxygen lol
Disadvantages: Very very very volatile.. if mixed with grease etc. imagine a rupture in the tank.. and it getting mixed with grease anywhere in the car..
this would seem to be unlike petrol where it is completely isolated before getting the injectors..
Pure oxygen is not a good idea.
NASA found this out the wrong way, sending up the first apollo space craft they filled the cabin full of pure o2, thought everything was rosy until the cabin temps rose while exiting atmosphere and KABOOM, no more apollo...
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Originally Posted by steve
did they do that to the first apollo.. i woulda have guessed fuel cell leek.. as they do use H2 and O2 for Hydrogen Fuel cells in space..
and believe it or not large ammounts of O2 breathed in is not healthy either.. it has its medical purposes but i think they will never allow a patient to breath it in for to long.
hmm maybe i didnt pay that much attention in science class:rolleyes: coulda swore that it was a similar scenario... quite happy to stand corrected tho:)
I thought that Apollo 1 exploded on the launch pad, I didn't even make it off the ground.. Thats what Apollo 13 told me anyway.. :D
From what I remeber of the Kennedy Space Centre tour.. the atmosphere wasn't 100% oxygen on Apollo 1 (I don't think that humans can survive in 100% oxygen, we need nitrogen as well) but it was more oxygen rich than open air, so a spark in the control panel ignited the hydrogen in the air and boom..
Am I off topic? :confused: