new comer : Integra GSi

ive never raced a non sluggish GSI. all gsis are slow if they are stock.

in terms of looks, there isnt much difference between the GSI & VTI-R. Just small subtle things as joneblaze mentioned above.

But the GSI is a good platform for future mods for either Natural aspiration or Turbo applications. It all depends on your goals for the car.

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You can get VTi-R's for about $16,000 these days easily. They are far better than the GSi but will be more to insure. You should get quotes for both models and see which ends up being cheaper. It depends a lot on how much money you have but i highly recommend getting the VTi-R and if you can't getting a different model Honda. The GSi is a sluggish unattractive car.

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BAHAHAHA.... *takes the bait*
The GSi and VTiR share basically exactly the same features barring the engine and ABS systems.
A 1995 GSi will LOOK exactly the same as a 1995 VTiR DC2... except the VTiR is colour coded on the door panel mouldings and comes stock with 15" alloy rims (as compared to the 14" steelies on the GSi).
If you are after something for performance definitely get an older model VTiR. As tanghy mentioned, there's plenty of performance and go fast mods for the B18C VTEC engine.
However if you're 17, not that speed orientated and looking for a decent package with nice looks and decent power then a GSi should be fine. It handles equal to a VTiR stock, and the same suspension/handling mods can be thrown on both cars.
Oh yeah...apparently the non VTEC GSi engine is easier to turbo as well....
Or you could just listen to those who have absolutely no idea about what they're on about............ :P


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Sorry AK, it's 5.30am and i've been driving for way too many hours....
Good luck in your search buddy.....



(wishes there were some non- "sluggish" stock GSi's in Melbourne....... would teach some ppl a lesson :roll: )

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I didn't say the GSi and VTi-R don't share the same features.

By the way, the GSi does NOT look exactly the same as the VTi-R because the mouldings are colour coded, the wheels are bigger and the VTi-R also comes standard with a spoiler. That and the fact the VTi-R comes with a far better engine/drivetrain package and ABS makes it a far better choice. Like i said earlier, the only thing might be insurance.

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80% of GSi's i've ever seen come with a spoiler. Most people upgrade wheels as a basic aesthetic/perfomance mod. Colour coding costs under $300. The price difference between a GSi base model and a VTiR is a few thousand dollars.
So as I have already wasted my time previously mentioning, the only difference between the two models would be the more powerful VTEC engine and ABS.
Not very "moderate" of a moderator to slam a particular model Honda as "sluggish" and "unattractive" is it? What happens if you hurt the feelings of the miniority of GSi drivers on the forums? :roll:
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Originally Posted by joneblaze

Or you could just listen to those who have absolutely no idea about what they're on about............

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I assume that is aimed at me?

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You're a smart cookie.

Lets all calm down and help this guy out with his car. Wanna net-fight, go to Lounge or somethin :)

Suspension is not the same between GSi and VTi-R

For starters, the GSi does not have a rear sway bar, and VTi-R does.

VTi-R comes stock with front upper strut brace, GSi does not

Just my 2c worth!

Oi JON: Dont forget the vtiR comes with moon-roof! durrrR..your forgetting the most important thing mate.. hahahah just teasing ya mate! :)

AK: i would suggest calling around getting quoutes first, on both Gsi and VtiR before you even go shopping for a car. Trust me you dont want to buy the car, bring it home and then find out that insuro is too much for ya to pay. Dont forget, you pay insurances, rego, pink slip, regular maintenance and repairs if any required and most important FUEL for the cruiz and runs! hahahaha 98 octane only casue hondas dont settle for second best, only the utmost most! :)

GSi comes with sunroof and moonroof. Also a 14mm rear swaybar. Identical to that of the VTiR.
I forgot about the VTiR's factory front strut, which is missing in the GSi. My apologies.


EDIT: I always thought "suspension" referred to springs/shocks etc, and things like swaybars and struts were more "handling" mods.

ahhh... yes your right JON!... sorry my fault.... forgot they do come with moon roof... Many Appologies mate. :)

hahaha boooost, dont back down, get jon e blazing at you! AHAHAH

hes fat and unattractive and sluggish! ;)

but id like to see any of you race his unattractive sluggish non vtec integra ;) pornstar? vti2? cmon!!!!!!!

Errm... didn't Pornstar run a dc2 VTiR with a few goodies installed? lol... I don't think i'll go there... :)

hahahah fried... just admitting my errors...
hasnt the Gsi gone up against any vtecs?

Hi AK,

Was doing abit of late night reading and came across this thread on HT.

http://www.honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=766802

Sorry for fukn up your question thread, hopefully this assists you in your decision making. :)
It basically outlines the pros and cons of both the DC2 LS (USDM GSi) and GSR (USDM VTiR). As you can see the argument has two sides. Also that thread is very performance based and they're in the US... so do a little more research along with this reading.


jon