hahahahahaa...... well said..... well said.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by vividjazz
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hahahahahaa...... well said..... well said.... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by vividjazz
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Originally Posted by kentris
Dont let the backwards cap, p platin commodore kids get to you mate.
Individuality comes at a price.... and that price is NOT BEING ACCEPTED BY BOGANS.....
"HOW GOOD IS THAT"
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Originally Posted by kentris
doesnt this wanker realise its the biggest selling car in japan? the only car to outsell corolla since corolla was released in 1966 ??????????
hahah he cost his company a ****in fortune!
I agree. Driving and modifying cars you can actually afford is one of the things which make Gran Turismo so great.
yeah thats y i like GT4. cars u've driven u drive in the game to compare
but the jazz is a box of shit to drive in GT4
the 1.4DSi i think it is. just has 1 gear. stays at top rpm all the time, sounds annoying
Didn't you know that's what CVT does?Quote:
Originally Posted by chicken8
Jazz is a nice car for the price, but just doesn't have enough power, but the fuel consumption is a plus. Took a VTi CVT model for a test drive recently as I was thinking of getting a VTi-S in manual. Wasn't very impressed to be honest.
Maybe I'm just used to a more expensive car so that's the problem.
Also didn't like the change in the seat fabric in 05 model that feels like velour. Makes the car feel more cheap. Took a Mazda3 SP23 and it felt a lot better. Wasn't noisy inside like all the reviews said and had much more feel to the steering wheel. Oh well, I suppose it's not fair comparing it to more expensive cars.
It kills all other cars in the same class though. Jazz shits all over Mazda2, Mitsubishi Colt etc...
Having said that, I wouldn't be wasting money on mods if I were to get a Jazz. The whole point of getting a Jazz is because it's economical and buying pointless mods will complete nullify that.
The 1.4 engine in GT4 jazz is annoying.. I thought the CVT was fairly realistic though..
Comparing jazz to a mazda3 sp23 which is in a completely different category is a bit harsh. The sp23 is a very nice car, built off the same chassis as the new ford focus and also some volvo model, definately next step up. I think sp23 with onroads you're looking at something like $32,000?
Yesterday I drove an 05 model jazz, and I have to agree the trim did seem a little cheap. It was the 1.3 model though, so perhaps its to be expected. I havent seen the new vti interior.
Regarding the CVT, I really like it, but I have one major gripe.. Compared to traditional autos, its SLOOOW off the line but great one you are in motion. I don't own a CVT model, but have driven a few of them and I never figured out a way to accellerate fast off the line like a manual can, or for that matter, a tradional auto. I hope that I've just been doing it wrong as i really like the CVT otherwise.
Re: Modifying the jazz, you're probably right for most of society. However some people are tuners at heart and will always mod their cars whether its a one litre daihatsu cuore or a top shelf porsche. For me, modifying a car is a hobby so the cost involved is in the same category as my chipped xbox, or playing indoor cricket or buying a surround sound system. Also not all mods will have significant affect on fuel consumption, for example mods like exhaust and intake are about making the whole system more efficient. So there shouldnt be a noticable affect on fuel unless you drive everywhere with wide open throttle...
I liked the fabric in fact. It's at least better than the civic sedan.Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
But was there really a difference in the fabric between the facelift and pre-facelift model?
Unless you were talking about the GLi then i'll agree that the fabric rather "ewwwie".
*WARNING probably not real good for your car best to do it with a rent a racer or someone elses vehicle, preferably a dealers*Quote:
Originally Posted by bluevti
For a quick launch select 7 speed mode. Put it on 1. Hold the brake then give it enough gas until the brakes almost won't hold it. Now when your ready to go floor it and take your foot off the brake. Once it redlines in 1 flick it into S mode. You can even get it chirp on the change. You should have no probs with a sub 9sec 0-100km/hr run. Not bad considering its only suppose to be a 12 sec car.
No, I'm not talking about GLi. I've never even looked at a GLi so I don't even know the difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Poeter
Pre-facelift models had more sporty, firm kind of fabric as opposed to velour type of fabric.
Am I mistaken or did they also change the dashboard plastic?
The plastic in 05 model felt cheaper if I remember correctly.
Yes, I know that SP23 is a step up from Jazz. It's just that I'm tossing between a brand new Jazz or 2004 SP23. I could probably pick up the Jazz for around $23K and the SP23 for around $25K.Quote:
Originally Posted by bluevti
I really liked Jazz when I test drove it about a year ago, but this time around it just didn't impress me at all for some reason. Not sure if it's the changes made to the 05 model or just that I've been spoilt driving my Accord Euro, which honestly drives miles better than the Jazz.
Does everyone like the facelift better than the pre-facelift?
i owned a 03 jazz for 2 years.. and going ot get a 05 one soon.. i tell u once which one is better and if there is really changes int eh trim later ;)