TODA Cams VS CTR Cams VS SIR-2 Cams

is your car 118kw.

At the wheel is about 15% off for manual car and 30% off for auto. (estimate)

So it is abt 100.3kw atw at the moment.

plus another 20kw atw, so it is about 120kw atw.

Thats about what a type r is at the wheel. you can extract a bit more with proper intake and exhaust system. with tuning you can extract even more.

Now, if you have this in mind, do you think it is easier what to know what to do after you know your goal?

i am not going to spoon feed you, less people think that im biased towards one side. in this forum, you can get all the cams you want easily to be honest. You just need to know what you want.

Always the no.1 barrier is MONEY..hhahahah

And there is no short cut, you need to pay what it is worth for and decide as well how much you want to spend.

cheers
hondar

thanks alot hondar advice taken..will look and save money..up..

Danny: SiR/SiR II has been a designation around since 1989. SiR II is just a varient of the SiR with the EGs and EFs - I'm not sure about the EKs.

http://www.honda.co.jp/HOT/ModelData...e_up.html#SiR2

EK SiRs are the same as our VTiRs but with approx 8 more bhp.

Hondar: Danny is running the EG6 B16A which runs 170ps, not the 160ps.

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]]well my goal is this

with my current sir-2 motor i wanna increse 20kw or so more atw figure..

includeing ecu and tuning..

what way's do u think i should take?

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To get what you’re after, get the following parts…
Spec B camshafts + valve springs + vernier cam pulleys + heavy duty oil pump gear + Hondata + fuel pump + fuel reg + Intake / header / exhaust

i don't want to sound rude, but why must it be hondata? :roll:

eknine -
The best bang for bucks & road legal solution was offered...
Obviously there are other alternatives,
However the value for money of these products just isn't as good.

Example... Power FC...
Very convenient & easy to install...
Bothersome to hard tune...

E-manage...
Cheap, reliable & efficient...
However, no rev limit increase is available..
Nor does it offer advanced options...

Motec...
A most excellent system for a premium price...
But... You do get what you pay for...

Microtech...
It'll do the job...

Need more be said?

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Originally Posted by [[d a n n y

]]well my goal is this

with my current sir-2 motor i wanna increse 20kw or so more atw figure..

includeing ecu and tuning..

what way's do u think i should take?

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To get what you’re after, get the following parts…
Spec B camshafts + valve springs + vernier cam pulleys + heavy duty oil pump gear + Hondata + fuel pump + fuel reg + Intake / header / exhaust

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Would the stock headgasket and timing belt suffice for this setup?

thx Adrian:)

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Would the stock headgasket and timing belt suffice for this setup?

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Yes... The standard parts will be fine for this application...

If you plan to use sustained 8500rpm+ (that is a circuit engine)
A TODA timing belt is a good idea.
Regarding the head gasket,
Not necessary if compression isn't increased via pistons.

NB: Increasing compression via head gasket aka Spoon / Mugen etc...
Will not work with real high performance camshafts due to high valve lift.
I.e.: Thin head gaskets only work on wee wee playing set-ups...

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Originally Posted by TODA AU

[NB: Increasing compression via head gasket aka Spoon / Mugen etc...
Will not work with real high performance camshafts due to high valve lift.
I.e.: Thin head gaskets only work on wee wee playing set-ups...

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Interesting. We use Spec C's on a 200+fwhp IPRA civic - you know the car. Running now, a very high compression ratio... (more than 12.6), and use a 2 layer Mugen Head Gasket....

Don't tell me we need to change the camshafts again..... Obviously, this isn;t a pee wee playing set-up....

In the context of chasing an extra 20 or so kw @ the wheels...
I stand by what I said...

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Originally Posted by [[d a n n y

]]well my goal is this

with my current sir-2 motor i wanna increse 20kw or so more atw figure..

includeing ecu and tuning..

what way's do u think i should take?

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To get what you’re after, get the following parts…
Spec B camshafts + valve springs + vernier cam pulleys + heavy duty oil pump gear + Hondata + fuel pump + fuel reg + Intake / header / exhaust

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ok that's the basic's i need also i was thinking of getting a spoon head gasket..

TODA AU will u b able to hook me up with theses parts for a resonable price?

my goal is to have a fast track car with good sussy set up and a fast running car in a stragith line...

anywayz i though n/a cars need to have higher compression in order to run good HP