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I think this topic's already been covered... Your friend posted up a question thread didn't he?
Either way i really wouldn't bother. As Ben - i think it was - posted in the other thread regarding this, unless you're certain of the condition and history of the hybrid car it's really not worth your while buying it. Too many problems and possible black hole to pour your money into fixing.....
manual.
actually no, this is the question thread about the car.
The other one was sorta a question within another thread.
doesnt matter its sold according to Teggy-Vtir anyway.
And what do you mean...
"unless you're certain of the condition and history of the hybrid car it's really not worth your while buying it."
i dont find that statement to be justified.
With all second-hand cars u buy, of corse ur not gonna know its condition and history in detail. so what should deter a person from buying a hybrid civic with a b18 compared to a vtir integra with a b18?
the b series engine was practically made to fit in that car anyway.[/quote]
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Originally Posted by pkn-xtc
Basically...any car with an engine and other parts not designed for it is going to run into problems prematurley regardless of "care taken" etc. As simply as "b18c 's bolt into Egs " etc... you are taking twice or more the risk of just buying a clean stocker car.
How ? For one , one chassis of one under-stated car plus over-powered engine that (no doubt) came from a life of hard work , another is the "new" braking package to go with , the next is teh fuel system and ofcourse computer etc. While each can come from an entire halfcut - each being usually from a different car ( and entirely diff. model sometimes!) is of diff. age, diff. spec and diff. condition. NOT to add , the high risk of accident damage , IE from a written off car etc...
With a 2nd hand STOCK car though, everything is working in union and has for the entire life of the vehicle.It is easy to check one part, and work out if it is in need of replacment etc.
There is no way of telling with a Hybrid car.
*POINTS @ BEN* What he said.
When you buy, for example, a DC2 VTiR with a B18C stock from the factory HONDA has fitted that engine for you. WHen you buy a hybrid/engine swap.... umm.. WHO'S done your work and labour? And where has everything come from? lol... just increases level of dodginess. And as Ben previously mentioned alot of the time any viable (or sometimes NON viable) shortcuts are taken.....
Just my opinion. no hard feelings. It'd suck for anyone to buy a nice car then have it break down/need hardcore maintenance due to shite prior workmanship. Good luck in assisting ur mate in his car search. :)
The eg civic and dc2 model integra's are built on the same platform. The underbody construction for both cars are identical, only the integra has a sturdier upper structure due to its aerodynamic design.
With the integra, engine and transmission side mounts are positioned on the front longitudinal frame members. The civic also share these similar engine mounts.
Thus,
still remains unjust as both cars practically share the same chassis.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
general statement, again unjustified. for all we know, the engine could have came from a 99 model vtir integra that had roof damage when it fell off the back of a truck with 0kms on the odometer.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
now this i really need u to explain. Because this is all that i could put together from what u've said... it is that by modifying any car to improve its braking system, or fuel system or computer is taking an extreme risk as they do not work in "union" with your other stock engine components.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
uuuummmz... well a half-cut does usually come from a damaged car, usually to the rear of the car if its a front half-cut. why else would someone chop up a perfectly good car in half?? and how does the parts that come "from an entire halfcut" end up "usually from a different car ( and entirely diff. model sometimes!)"????? :roll:Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
im assuming u mean that with a completely stock car, u know when to replace parts according to the kms on the odometer. Such as the oil, filters, clutch, timing belt, brake pads, etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by bennjamin
well i dont see how its impossible to tell with a hybrid car. clutch slips, change it. brakes alarm, change it. filters dirty, change it. Roughly estimate kms run with the new engine and change the timing belt accordingly.
Agreed. If the engine conversion had been done properly (which should be the main deciding factor in the purchase of a hybrid vehicle) any problems which may arise with the engine or transmission etc. would be to the same occurance as those problems associated with a vtir integra with a similar engine.Quote:
Originally Posted by joneblaze
dont get me wrong k guys. i see where ur coming from, i did ask for ur input.
jus doesnt make sense to me..
do a rear disc conversion, (few hundred), upgrade the interior cheaply (up to 2k) get part of the car resprayed if necessary (up to 3k), sounds like a pretty mad deal especially if it's b18c, if it wasnt for that motor no chance
guess wat guys?
i bought the car
yeh i did the rear disc conversion, cost me $540
i fixed the entire interior cost me $2400. The whole interior including dash,seats etc is a complete soft Tan leather
and i installed the aircon, cost me $470
Ive just put out an extra $3500 for the entire sound system. Getting it installed next week
right now the car flies
i chopped a 200sx series II the other day
i think my car is fastest n/a on the road at the moment
any1 wanna go for a run for their money.
races start at $500 a piece
ill take all u ****s on
im not scared
i got the car tuned and serviced as well
BRING YOUR TURBOS ON BIATCH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Make it $2000, and Oran Park, sunday the 28th.
My weapon of choice will be NA
Didn't think you'd take it up, pussy
oh yeh!!
other specs i forgot to mention
i got the toda a spec cams installed aswell.
forged internals and had to resleeve the piston chambers coz the blocks aluminium
i got
new extractors, i threw out the old ones and got mugen 4 into 1 headers.
forged pistons, forged rods.
port and polished the head.
bore and stroked the block to a 2.0L
comn any1 wanna challenge??
wtf?
ill take u on anyday
lets make it a bit more interesting yeh?
lets make it $3500
i got it in cash right now
watta say biatch?
Choice is yours
oh btw
i heard u drive that slow 5th gen prelude
hahaha
lets make the bet 5k.
since im so sure my 2.0L will rape that pussy 2.2 of urs."