Yea I know
Thats where I got all my info when I was lookin into the conversion
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Yea I know
Thats where I got all my info when I was lookin into the conversion
ahhh well...here's a link for the 5th gen install then:
http://www.accordinglydone.com/tech/tech.php?ID=54
cant remember where else i saw the 4th gen swap info
Yo, thanks for the URLs and the advice all!
poid, to be honest, I'm just looking for an excuse to upgrade to H22 8) .
Yep mate I own a shoebox as well :D - quite an accurate little analogy there. It does indeed come with the F22A and yes as a motor, they're harder than a diamond.
Look after it with due care and Kms pretty much become a non issue. I bought mine with over 200,000 on it without a second thought.
yea. i'v had this idea in mind for a long long time. Is this dscussion about the CB series accords? I really wanna do this conversion but i need to find out more first b4 doing it.
Welcome to the forums seanny! What aspect of the conversion are you interested in? Have a look at the URLs posted by Blade earlier on in the forum, they have a pretty good run down on the process and the things you need before you begin.
Cheers,
- K
hey all, i got a 92 accord aswell. im also in the same boat of wanting a h22a.
just out of intereist is the f22 block the same as a h22 block. if so would it not be eaier to just buy the h22 head and beef up the running gear that comes with the f22 or are they completly different.
has any 1 built a f22 to the spec of a h22 or are they a week engine.
well thats my 2 cents
the F and H series blocks are a little different. The F is a strong block, certainly not weak, but they arent designed to rev hard whereas the H series is.
The H22A head can be made to fit on an F22 but i personally dont see a whole lot of point to it...there is less mucking around to just do the whole swap, unless you have a spare head and block and wanna do it just for the hell of it
As for whether anyone has built an F to h22a specs, Bisimoto have a very quick all motor CRX (or civic, cant bloody remember) that uses a fully built F22 to power it, so it can be done. The F's are also a very good engine to turbo.
so basicly the only differenece is the f22 is low reving h22 with out a dohc?
does running a h22 head with dohc beef the performance much. im in perth so were do u think i would get parts or a complete swap engine from also how much would i be looking at for an engine with gear box from a wreckers yard.
if i do the swap i wanna rebuild the engine with parts to be strong enough to put a turbo on it, if i end up going that far
well thats the real difference, out of the box the h22a isnt as well-built for turbo due to the sleeves and pistons, and i think dollar for dollar rebuildnig the F series for boost makes more sense. I mean the h22a front cut will cost you 2,500-3,000; for that money you can get new pistons, rods and an engine freshen up for the F, maybe even some head work.
Then it'll be capable of 200+kw at the front wheels with a turbo setup. The H22A cant run a lot of boost. Some blow them at just 7psi of boost, the occasional one can take more. I've heard of the odd F series standing up to 14psi of boost when tuned and not complaining, and thats stock engine without a rebuild. 10psi is common place.
There are quite a few adelaide/perth wreckers that would be able to get you a front cut from Japan if you awnna go that way
chears poid. that was extremly helpful hmm. im thinking i may just slowly buy all the parts to rebuild my f22 with good internals. with a 5 speed out of a prelude or accord. preferably a prelude lsd that i herd existed.
do u beleive that changing the head from sohc to dohc would be benifical or would it be not worth it?
thanks.
u may notice how much of a novice i am. this is my first real attempt at amping my car up. in performance wise any way.
i have a preety speccy sterio, 3k worth, sounds preety good if i can get a digi camera i'll take a few pics.
the DOHC head will naturally flow better than the SOHC accord one, especially since the F22B1 head has quite small ports. Is it worth the trouble though? Personally i dont think it is, as its a fiddly thing to do the head swap. The H head wont just fit right on perfectly without some modifications to either the head or the block.
Basically if i were in your position i would choose whether i was going NA or turbo and go from there. If you are going NA then the H22A is a better base to work from. You get like 60hp in gains from the swap, which is a big deal NA. However if you wanna go turbo, the F will do it well. Rods and pistons are easily found, and the engine can be sleeved if you wanna go for big power. Basically you'll be able to build it so that it puts down more power on the street than you can use.
The prelude LSD does exist, but they arent that good for really high power levels. A quaife LSD will be a much better idea.
Dont worry about being a novice, i was in the same position 18 months ago ;) Once you start researching and figuring everything out though it gets easier