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Hehe, I meant that K&N charging over $200 for that enclosure is a ripoff when you can achieve similar performance using the stock airbox, k&n panel filter and routing a tube from the bottom of the airbox to the bumper.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobster
The gruppe M enclosure on the other hand is nice. :thumbsup:
I was trying to work out whether there'd still be any advantage from the (probable) greater surface area of the pod, but basically I think you're right -- which is essentially a DIY Comptech Icebox...
It would be a crude DIY Icebox as the Icebox also includes a new cover with I assume has better air flow properties as they have removed some of the internal fins that could affect the airflow. I haven't looked inside the std lid to see what is there or if they could even be cut out.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobster
The top lid of of the airbox that comes with the Icebox is larger to accomodate the larger panel filter that is included. That's the only difference between the Icebox and a standard airbox with its resonator removed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoffy
And as to a pod filter being better than a panel filter.... It depends on the setup. Usually pod filters go with SRIs or CAIs, and it makes more power. If you had a fixed setup and somehow manage to swap a panel filter for a pod filter while keeping everything the same, I doubt you will get more power.
Fins are normally there just to direct and smooth airflow: removing them won't generally make much difference and may even be detrimental depending on the nature of the engine -- some like a smooth flow, some like it swirling, etc. What's more important is the amount of air the engine can draw in and how easily it can do it. A larger box with a bigger filter should allow more air flow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hoffy
Potentially a pod filter with a larger surface area can allow a greater volume of air through than a panel filter -- but if the pod is enclosed then it may negate that effect unless enough cool air can be fed to it.
Yeah, this is why I think the K&N enclosure is a rip off. If the clearance between the filter and enclosure is very small, then the side surface of the filter will not be utilised at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobster
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Originally Posted by aaronng
Maybe....but K&N being a filter company surely would have done tests to prove it works....They are experts at this....
And because it is enclosed would be street legal.
So if you just have a pod filter at the end of the old tube it is not street legal. What about the CAI with the pod in behind the bumber where the resonator was?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peekay34
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Originally Posted by Hoffy
POD filters that are oil based that are not enclosed and may possibly loose oil that may drip on to the street are illegal.
this is the intake i'll be getting - within the next couple of months i should have some detailed photos and impressions for everyone :p
hahah chris i was wondering when u were gonan speak up :D
Which one Chris? the GruppeM or the K&N Apollo?Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris_F