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Originally Posted by Snoop_gee
To quote weq...... 2 doesnt mean better then 1....
I am looking for which will have the best potential in the future for power output and i have been hearing the d16y1 head is the best option
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Originally Posted by Snoop_gee
To quote weq...... 2 doesnt mean better then 1....
I am looking for which will have the best potential in the future for power output and i have been hearing the d16y1 head is the best option
hey sivic do you have more info on what happened with the B7 mini me? its interesting how in the states, they pull off high CR's and say its bang for your bucks.. just wondering if all this is possible and true...
see if you can quiz Jr on that one. its his engine. he's on these forums.
but from what i know it was a Y1 head on a D15B7 block. it made about 10 less hp atw than the D16Y1's and ZC's. but it could have been a result of tune. i think he used a stock D16Y1 ecu so might not have been optimum.
funny thing was it was still pretty quick, quicker than Cxi's which were making more power so...... who knows.
i'm often quite skeptical about some of the stuff on the US forums. while there is plenty of good info on there, there is also heaps of poop. has anyone actually produced a dyno chart for a mini me which has made the intended power? cos i wouldnt mind seeing a comparison
yeah i would also like to see some dyno charts too see the proof on power gains from a mini me conversion... ill try search it up... did your friend dyno his car? sometimes dyno's can be abit off... i mean 7.46kw isnt that much... i guess its best when Jr comes on to answer all of this... but do you know what ecu the stock D16y1 runs? is it the P28 Ecu??
this statement that i read on a forum is what got me interested in this mini me...
"im gonna vote for the b7 to be honest.... decent power for a 1.5l, not a bad r/s ratio, a mini-me with a z6 head + b16 ecu = high revving VTEC sohc...
a b7/z6 mini-me with b16 ecu is like a sohc b16
EDIT::: ^^ with more torque!!!!!1"
oh yeah Sexc86 i think the y1 head is a good choice... which head gasket are you gonna use??
yeah dont know about running a B16 ECU on a D. i'm sure its been tried plenty of times, though i doubt it would run that flash. i dont think theres a lot of factual evidence to back up that statement you quoted.
yeah Jr's car was dynoed on a dyno day we had so we were able to make proper comparisons between cars on the same dyno on the same day. it was making about 10hp less atw than the D16Y1's and ZC's and about 3hp less than the Y4's. 10hp isnt heaps but its def noticable when your dealing with figures around the 100hp mark.
i reckon you'd be better off with a straight Y8/Y1 swap and building that. you can get everything for that - pistons, rods, valvetrain, cam etc.....
but yeah pm Jr and you can suss exactly what he did
one thing, as far as the Y1 and Z6 being the same, i've heard the cam timing might be slighty different not 100% though. you may want to try D-series.org for that although they may not be too cluey about the Y1 either as they got the Z6 instead in N.America. i think ppl assume they the same as they were the equivalent of each in their time (EG w/ SOHC VTEC). just something to check before buying Z6 parts for the Y1.
Ban for ur bucks, YES $700 all up for me, dyno was strange due to Timing and ECU tune but sivic has seen it going he can vouch on performance. Any Q about D mini me PM or email me happy to answerQuote:
Originally Posted by NeRV
Hm
I was under the impression D16Z6 and D16Y1 parts were interchangeable
I was looking to upgrade my drive train with D16Z6 Crower cam and spring
I asked http://www.tunerschoice.com/ if they would if and they told me they would
I think Weq has had em in his D16Y1 at some point in da passed?
thanks for the info sivic... its really nice to hear from other aussies, since things are different over here then the US, JR ill be pm'ing you soon mate :thumbsup:
Lukenzen27: The D16y1 and the D16z6 are similar as stated by sivic, so im sure the parts are interchangeable... i think you were reading about the ZC not being interchangeable.
Oh sorry lolQuote:
Originally Posted by NeRV
My bad
DOHC heads can be used on SOCH blocks, im sure. people use DOHC blocks with y1 heads all the time.
z6 and y1 are 99% the same. all parts interchangable.
Heres some info on compression Z6 / D15 - 10.10:1 and Y8 / D15 - 10.52:1.