People do only complain when they have a problem, there isn't a need to make threads to justify the purchase of a euro (The awards it has are proof enough not to mention articles comparing it more expensive german rivals and coming out on top).Quote:
Originally Posted by GEN46L
I don't think you've hit a nerve, its more like people do not understand your logic. For example to say that Japanese car's are more reliable than Italian, given that it may be true; have you taking into consideration the cost? The Euro is a 40 odd thousand dollar car, a Ferrari is at least 6 times more costly yet its less reliable? So what I understand from that its ok for a more expensive car to be unreliable but its catastrophically disasterous if a cheaper car has issues? Don't get me wrong mate, i'm not having a go at you personally (well mayb the ignorant comment was... lol) and if it seems like i'm putting words in your mouth i appologise. It's just that i don't seem to understand your logic.
Let's put it into perspective, when you purchased your cb7 accord. Why did you choose Accord over a Camry or a Mazda 626? Was it because of all the awards it won? I don't think that model of accord had many awards under its name at the time (i'm not too sure about this so please correct me if i'm wrong). May be you just preferred the accord AFTER you drove it.
My suggestion is, before you decide to bag out a car go for a test drive. See why people like the car and why people don't like the car, then judge for yourself. If the car is as bad as you say then there must be thousand upon thousands of idiots out there who are willing to pay 33-43k for an inferior car, because Euro's seem to be a very common sight on the roads.
If you want to upgrade to a Euro then go to a dealership and take one for a test drive. If you decide not to test drive it simply just because of what you've read on the internet, then it's your loss not ours. You've read all the threads about the complaints about the Euro but have you seen a thread in which the owner regretted getting the car? There are probably a couple of these threads, but then again there are hundreds more thread with happy owners.
German companies such as AUDI, BMW, and Mercedes are said to be at the top the game when it comes to technology, safety and quality. If that's true then why did the sales for mercedes slump? Why are there issues witht he electronics? Recently i went with a mate to pick up an M3 which had an issue with its SMG gearbox, personally i would've expected an M3 to not have any gearbox issues but that doesn't stop me from wanting one.
My point being, there is no such things as the perfect car or a car that doesn't have any issues for that matter. The german companies supposedly make the best cars in the world, funny how an Accord Euro Luxruy was picked over a Audi A4 in a head to head comparison in a article in Wheels or Motor magazine.
Take a step back and think about what you need from a car, since you said that an 06 odyssey might be on your shortlist. They are 2 distinctyly different cars so see what your needs are, take a test drive in both cars and see which fills your needs better or gives you a better feeling when driving it. The oddysey has won it's share of awards as well, so either car would be a good choice. Personally i think the Odyssey should've had a bigger engine or at least have more power considering that it is a 7seater MPV but at least it does look very sleek for a people mover.
ends rant/essay.
