no problems for me. its only ever jerky if u clutch out to fast without accellerating enough.. its all about they way u drive
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no problems for me. its only ever jerky if u clutch out to fast without accellerating enough.. its all about they way u drive
manual gear box for me has been fine for me..... the only time i wish i have a CVT is when i'm stuck in traffic in the morning on the way to work...... :(
Though the fuel comsumption difference between CVT & manual are not much, I'm still interested to know:
For those with manual Jazz (particularly VTi), what is the engine turning at say 100kph on straight, level road (eg: highway)?
My 1.3L iDSI (aka GLi) with CVT does slightly above 2000 rpm, I say around 2100+ rpm, hence producing very impressive fuel consumption figures.
One characteristics & advantage of CVT is that it has a wider range of ratio than manual - its lowest gear is lower, and highest gear is higher.
3k @100kph
exactly 3000rpm@100km/h
I have manual (fake) and auto.. I love F1.
The Jazz manual box is very reliable as long as u shift properly and stick with Honda's manual tranmission fluid. Don't use any other brands otherwise you'll have problems driving it in winter.
Gearbox still feels great after 55,000km of abuse and 10+ track days. Had to replace the clutch disc (around $500) at 30,000km though =P
i know how you feel, every time i get stuck in traffic i cry. left leg gets so sore lol especially after workQuote:
Originally Posted by MRFIT
Tony what car do you drive now? Still the jazz?Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Also how do you know when you have to replace the clutch.
I do 150klms of freeway each day
i have CVT and @ 100 its 2400rpm
and at 110 its 2900rpm
no probs with cvt. i figured buying a car like the jazz ins't worth my time. its not enjoyable enough. so i just bought an auto as the jazz is a very good commuter, and the manual doesn't give me an increased driver satisfaction. therefore its not worth the effort in a car like the jazz to change gears, let CVT do it for you.
Went with Mrs to initially check out the 2006 Civic, and also as a side line, test out manual Jazz VTi (we have a GLi CVT). Mrs found that she like the manual quite a fair bit, compared to say my old 25 years old Camry manual (who wouldn't?). The transfer stick looks like a golf ball on a stick, has very nice springy feel clutch and engages very well - crunchy and well balanced, I also liked it alot. Obviously, in start/stop traffic, this will become less enjoyable.
So, now looking into real possibility of getting a manual VTi instead of a Civic (also manual), and I got so scared of CVT failure that I think a manual transmission is probably more reliable in the longer term (less things/likelihood to break down). The new 2006 Thai VTi is quite cool as noted else where on this forum.
Just wanted to add to this, I ocassionally get the jerky clutch too on my 03 manual vti. Sometimes it feels like the engagement point of the clutch is like a milimeter off the floor way earlier than it normally is. When it does this, it is normally when starting to go again in traffic and when ive held the clutch in however I havent yet been able to reliably reproduce the behaviour on demand (which is required to show mechanic). This talk about the EGR valve being the cause sounds very plausable as the problem is much more evident with standard unleaded. When running 98, it doesnt occur very often at all. However how this would affect how the clutch feels and egages, im not sure - unless the clutch has hydrolic assistance?
I thought i was going a bit crazy, but in a way, glad to hear there are a few other ppl with funny clutch symptoms.