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I think your talking aobut the wheels issue where W Gardner takes his NSX and bike and loaned dc5 around phillip isle. the dc5 was only sub 3 secs off the nsx time. not too sure if they did another issue w/ s2000 vs type r though. If anyone was to compare them it would be BMI.Quote:
Originally Posted by crx51
Best Motoring International has a special on the Type R legacy.
in a race there was a EK9 DC2R and a S2000
EK9 and DC2R was on 1st row. S2000 was 8 car lengths behind. and they were doing a 3 lap race. i think it was Maze Circuit in Japan
S2000 won by 7 seconds ahead of the DC2R which was 2 seconds in front of the EK9
I would like to see someone drive a ITR like this S2000
ripped from AusS2000 (sorry buddy)
are you talking about the dvd "type r legend" where they race a type r civic, integra r, and s2000 agaisnt celicas and altezzas? coz if you are... integra r won and s2000 just beat the civic r...Quote:
Originally Posted by chicken8
kinda irrelevent tho coz that track is nothing like wakefield, and the civic r driver was shit haha
S2000 will win. 250hp Similar close 6 speed. I dont see how a stock Type R can beat a S2000. I've watched many many Best Motorings and S2000 ripped the R every time!
On those Best Motoring video races, which car wins or not wins is not completely relevant a lot of times - because the drivers are worried that they'll have an accident with the 'borrowed' cars hitting each other off. AND IT HAS HAPPENED.... an RX-7 hit the walls harder, and I remember a Modena 360 was hit by an Evo 7 on the side. Also whenever Gan-san drives, everyone lets him through coz he drives crazy, but he never lets someone else through.
What is relevant is the Lap Times and Time Attack times. And the S2000 wins everytime, no matter what track... U can't beat a finely balanced RWD car for handling and cornering ability. That is Physics.
How many F1, GP2 or F3000, V8 supercars are FWD? lol.
The only FWD race cars are lower powered Renault Clios or Mitsu Mirage because FWD has very big inherent disadvantages, especially on long winding corners and also uphill cornering.
ITR, CTR and FTO's are exceptions yes, but they still can't beat physics.
only way to find out is to go wakefield....
but seriously in reality to determine the quickest around wakefield out of the 2 cars is to get a driver who is knowlegable in both cars to do a few laps in them.
There is hardly any point in using best motoring as a basis as yes they are pro drivers but i have seen their races and sometimes as mentioned the drivers dont allow each other to past which is probably why the s2k comes out on top every time.
overall i would say the s2k has potential to do quicker times than the itr with a good driver but if we are talking abt average skilled drivers than it would appear the itr would be easier to do some decent times as the s2k requires more involvement to get the best out of it.
no. the 1 i saw was with CTR, ITR and S2K only. and the CTR and ITR had a 8car length head start. i remember the S2000 won. but even lets say the ITR won. then the S2000 still would've beat the ITR if they both started from front grid. 8 car lengths is a fairly substantial leadQuote:
Originally Posted by civ_sik
this arguement is too theory based
liek fly said
take someone who is good at ff and fr
and let them do a few laps in each car
dont forget
this is stock for stock
imo, dc2r comes from the factory better as a track car
s2k down the straight
type r thru the corners
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Originally Posted by TECBOY
coz the s2k's 50/50 weight balancing , doesnt do anything for handling right?