Upgrading cams on Non Vtec Tegs

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Originally Posted by VT3C

IMO for the effort and expense of aftermarket cams and valvetrain etc.. i'd say you're better to try and find a B16A(2) head and ECU and do the VTEC conversion. The VTEC head will give you much higher gains than just non-vtec cams and will provide much more flexibility for future mods...

think about it once you whack cams etc in a non-vtec and approach the engine's limits, you're still only in stock B16A territory.. B16A head on your B18B block and you're closer to type R

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If you can make your desired power with the motor u have then why wouldnt you.
Theres plenty of examples out there of nonvtec making good N/A power and running good times.
http://www.tuneruniversity.com/forum...thread.php?t=1

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Originally Posted by Cold Fusion

i havent got it installed yet, so far im buying stuff after every pay check lol i still got headers and either SAFC or neo to buy. the neos are 570 from ebay (inc shipping) and the SAFCs u can get 2nd hand for like...300

i HOPE to get (with headers, cams, cam gears and safc+tune maybe..

cams- 10-15
cam gears- 5-10
Tune-6-12
Headers-5-15

so around hopefully 40kw at engine Gain (i have no idea but id hope its alot gain for the money its cost lol)

All my car has atm is exaughst and air intake...and yeh im waiting for my tax too lol

I will get pics ASAP ;)

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your cam gears power estimate should be deleted as they wont get you any 'extra' power.. theyre there to get you the max hp from the cams..

so really should be cams & cam gears 5-15 or whatever

dont be dissapointed if you dont get 40kw at the fly wheel coz thats a massive estimate.. 96 + 40 kw is 136kw !! ;) goodluck

^^^ agreed

With these mods, a good tune (emphasis on GOOD tune) and the condition of your existing gear/engine, you should be looking at about a 25-30kw at the fly gain max.

Dont be too dissapointed if the numbers sound low, torque and drivability will be the main improvements.

Good luck with the build up!

yeh i said engine not wheels if u read my thing, that would equal around 25-30ish at the wheels....Like i said...

and i cant wait :P

atfw = "at the front wheels"

why dont u get some from rocket motorsports

haha obviously a bit of miscommunication there

good luck with the build!

I considered doing this for a long time w/ my gsi. In the end I couldnt justify the money spent for the gains.

Secondly I now have a factory turbo car in the ranks and it's a whole nother kettle of fish!

Poor integra! off to the g/f you go, lol.

the motor is like 2000ks old, so itll get the max possible gain from the cams, given that the compression ratio is tip top. its already like as fast as v6 commodores, just from the fresh motor, and once i do this gear ill burn them :)