WHY VTEC IS WAY BETTER THAN VVTI

VTEC SUCKS!! :P

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OK, here are some basic specs of the engines. The first one is the Toyota engine found in both the Celica and Corolla Sportivo. From my understanding, this is the only engine offered out here with VVTL-i....all the rest are VVT-i.

As you can see, it is all pretty similar from a pure numbers game....


2ZZ-GE
1796cc (1.8 )
DOHC with VVT & Lift
141kW @ 7800rpm
180Nm

K20A2
1998cc (2.0 )
DOHC with VVT & Lift
147kW @ 7400rpm
192Nm

B18C7
1797cc (1.8 )
DOHC with VVT
141kW @ 7900rpm
172Nm


*edit* these figures were taken from www.redbook.com.au

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Originally Posted by Jus-10

OK, here are some basic specs of the engines. The first one is the Toyota engine found in both the Celica and Corolla Sportivo. From my understanding, this is the only engine offered out here with VVTL-i....all the rest are VVT-i.

As you can see, it is all pretty similar from a pure numbers game....


2ZZ-GE
1796cc (1.8 )
DOHC with VVT & Lift
141kW @ 7800rpm
180Nm

K20A2
1998cc (2.0 )
DOHC with VVT & Lift
147kW @ 7400rpm
192Nm

B18C7
1797cc (1.8 )
DOHC with VVT
141kW @ 7900rpm
172Nm


*edit* these figures were taken from www.redbook.com.au

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b18c7?

k20?

toyota?

aint that ITR engines?

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Originally Posted by wynode

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Originally Posted by pornstar

Overall man, what u just posted is so mis-informed man.

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The SR20DETs found in the 180sx etc only have variable timing and I belive thats only on the intake (or was it exhaust) cam.

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180sx don't have VVT, only S14a and S15s :?
SIKCVC, yep same site!

What are you on about Danny?

2ZZ = Toyota Celica/Corolla Sportivo

B18C7 = DC2R

K20A2 = DC5R

I simply posted these Honda figures as they are the closest match to the Toyota unit in terms of specs.

yeah but those power figures are VVTI-L, both variable cam and cam timing is used.

The VTEC is simply Variable Cams.

So compare the 2ZZ with the K20

ek9 beats a 2000 celica down the quarter... hint hint :D

Wow it looks like Toyota have done well, I was lookign at a corolla sportivo couple of weeks ago, oddnt drive 1 tho :P :( It seems the 1.8 pulls near the power of the K20. Wonder what they could achieve with the .2L more displacement? On a side note what weight does the corolla carry? Might be able to keep up with a DC5R ;)?

BIG "WTF" ...

I'm full lost as to why 90% of the stuff thats been posted in this thread has been posted..

hugely wrong info here ...
hmm i have no doubt in my mind the corolla would be slower than the celica, which is slower than a VTiR integra,

if u want to compare spec sheet for spec sheet..

the celica's power/figures are VERY similar to that of a DC2R..
but if u actually go and drive instead of reading quoted figures .. u will find
that the only thing similiar is they have 4 wheels and a steeringwheel (ok a bit exaggerated)..

no way a stock celica can keep up with a DC5R

Corolla Sportivo = 1224kg
DC5R = 1160kg