Seeking your views [ADL people please read]

Thanks for the reply wyn.

Think that what you were saying that its up to the members to organize things is true. Kinda why we were looking into this so that someone can start to take charge of Major cruises etc for events.

Think that with the car show side of things it will take a lot of organizing to make sure that everything is up to a standard that people are happy with.
Also believe that if done properly could mean that we get more representation out there that could benefit OzHonda.

On the state specific idea. Believe that it is a good idea so that we can see what is happening in each state easier. Problem atm is that once a thread drops to page 2 most people don't bother to check there and it goes unnoticed.

If we were able to have a state by state events listing we would be able to keep better track of what is happening locally and keep on top of things. (reflections threads could still be like they are atm because lats face it the event is over)

If others can come up with more ideas along these lines please add them here everyone's opinion counts.

someone organise the next cruise/meet up

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Originally Posted by A.G.System

If others can come up with more ideas along these lines please add them here everyone's opinion counts.

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Agreed!

The reason for not splitting up into different states I've said a few times before. When I have time (in a rush atm) I'll post a few links as to the reasons we are/were against it (haven't got time to type it up just yet!).

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Originally Posted by DSNTGR8

someone organise the next cruise/meet up

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why dont you? its not that hard, and you seem to want one so badly.

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Originally Posted by DSNTGR8

someone organise the next cruise/meet up

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I dont mean to single u out DSNTGR8, as this is not my intention,
But what u typed there, is the mentality taken by the majority of ppl wanting more events and meetups to take place, and let me tell you, its the wrong one!

Ppl are always wanting things to be done for them,
As mentioned above, if you want a cruise, organise it yourself!
Dont blame the admin/mods that there are not enough regular meets as this is up to the members to arrange.

I hate to bring it back up, but the National Meet that was attempted by myself about 5-6months back.
It was organised for late November, so members had plenty of time to arrange for leave off work etc.
The EOI for the event was unreal, however when it came down to the crunch, and deposits were to be made, the members failed to respond.

The National Meet has been attempted 2x, both crashin out due to members not sticking true to their word.

Jst to elaborate, organising special and unique Ozhonda events have been attempted by several members here, across Australia.
If you want something, make it happen yourself, do your part.
Dont jst sit there and wish for someone to take the pilot seat all the time.

i think, that if you want to cruise and do something ORGANISE IT
theres no need for one main person to organise the cruises, over time their efforts will go unappreciated
also as some of you might know, adelaide isn't exactly the biggest place in aus, so there are only a limited number of places that u can actually go without making it a morning to night thing, so organising one every month or one every week for that matter you will soon find out that theres no where to go.

to conclude, if you want to cruise ORGANISE IT YOURSELF!!
other then one other person organising a cruise (which turned out all wrong but nice try =P)it has always been steve, sahau and myself. So quit ur yapping, get off ur comp and think of some places we can go and things to do

i said i was more than willing to help, im not trying to shirk from any responsibillities!!

I think you've all gotten ahead of yourselves in the sence that the argument initially was that OzHonda was to play role of "sponsor" rather than organisor, well that was my point in the other thread before it turned ugly.

ie, I am in agreance, cruises etc should be organised locally, although it appears there is so much hostility between individuals (i'm guilty here as well) that I doubt that this will ever gain momentum... but if it ever does...then...

It really comes down to this:

1. What is the OzHonda brand/forum's goal/purpose. ie Does it have a vision as to what it would like to achieve long term? Something similar to a mission statement. (It honestly appears that OzHonda is at a standstill/cross road currently - hence my lack of direction comment in the other thread, and a source of frustration, but thats another story for another thread.)

2. Does the community goal then tie into OzH's vision? If yes, what can be done mutually to move the National effort forward?

3. If NO, then alternatives need to be considered, such as a network of state based car clubs, all rolling up into a parent. This structure will oversee and vote on allocation of funds and organise the National meets etc)

These were my initial thoughts for which I was attacked for (perhaps I should've ellaborated, but sometimes I just can't be bothered as the mentality of the school kids that pass through here leaves much to be desired)

Thats my piece..flame away.

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Originally Posted by ProECU

I think you've all gotten ahead of yourselves in the sence that the argument initially was that OzHonda was to play role of "sponsor" rather than organisor, well that was my point in the other thread before it turned ugly.

ie, I am in agreance, cruises etc should be organised locally, although it appears there is so much hostility between individuals (i'm guilty here as well) that I doubt that this will ever gain momentum... but if it ever does...then...

It really comes down to this:

1. What is the OzHonda brand/forum's goal/purpose. ie Does it have a vision as to what it would like to achieve long term? Something similar to a mission statement. (It honestly appears that OzHonda is at a standstill/cross road currently - hence my lack of direction comment in the other thread, and a source of frustration, but thats another story for another thread.)

2. Does the community goal then tie into OzH's vision? If yes, what can be done mutually to move the National effort forward?

3. If NO, then alternatives need to be considered, such as a network of state based car clubs, all rolling up into a parent. This structure will oversee and vote on allocation of funds and organise the National meets etc)

These were my initial thoughts for which I was attacked for (perhaps I should've ellaborated, but sometimes I just can't be bothered as the mentality of the school kids that pass through here leaves much to be desired)

Thats my piece..flame away.

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Just been sitting back and waiting for this one to unfold, so now I feel it's time I reply with my opinions.

Seperate state sections would be a great help, because I usually miss OH [SA] events due to them being lost in a sea of SYD and MELB posts in the upcoming events areas.

Organising cruises shouldn't be left up to moderators only. If someone wants to cruise to say the bay for a photoshoot, then put out an EOI for a date, then once people are in finallise details, then have an absolute ball on the event.

I believe that OH should probably be involved in events like Small Car Sunday, it gets the name in front of the average punters. In that crowd we potentially have:
Modified Honda owners
People planning Honda projects but don't know where to start
People considering Hondas as a vehicle
All of which would find OH a valuable resource, and if they wanna learn and chat to people who've been there and done it, they'll be a valuable addition to the site.

One of the things that I was tentative about buying my Lude was what seemed like a total lack of aftermarket support. In the end, it didn't stop me, then after purchasing I stumbled across PA an OH, both of which have been a terrific source of info, and an opportunity to meet likeminded people, because I get so sick of non-Honda people giving me shit, despite my car being faster and louder than theirs. But that's not a conversation for here I don't think.

Look around when you drive around town. You see a hundred cars with NS stickers on, hundreds with all the Commodore and Falcon clubs, but the only place I've seen OH stickers in on OH meets. The name isn't out there, and admittadly, I only came across OH through a member saying something on PA.

I agree with what ProECU said about the school kids who pass through, who drag down my opinion of the human race. These kids who obviously have nothing better to do should just be ignored and hopefully they'll just go away.

As the needs/wants of OH members change, so should the community. If a couple of revisions to the forums would help, then I think that's what should be done for the good of the site/community.

SO that's where I sit on the fence. Any more opinions?

its more than apparents that thier should be state specific threads as everythings jumbled. But mods have already made thier feelings known on this before (and even in this thread)

The problem with normal cruises is that it is just a cruise where we just drive around wasting petrol. People are reluctant to attend unless they the usual people who attend or people who are bord shitless and have absolutely nothing better to do. This is the main contributor of a bad turn out. The idea is to create a cruise where it encourages people to want to go and not go for the sake of it. The way to do this to to have a well planned cruise thats new, exciting and different.