some cars wont let you get into 1st unless your really really slow.... i tend to just get into 2nd n take off if your still rolling abit. close gear ratio should let you take off just as goodQuote:
Originally Posted by TheSaint
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some cars wont let you get into 1st unless your really really slow.... i tend to just get into 2nd n take off if your still rolling abit. close gear ratio should let you take off just as goodQuote:
Originally Posted by TheSaint
^ like wot georgie sed
sometimes if the road is uphill. i stop briefly jus to chuck it back into gear 1
I have read this thread and dont agree that you use less fuel in gear than you do in neutral. My 06 Subaru Liberty I owned had a trip computer that also measured instantaneous fuel use, whilst coasting down hills even in fifth you were still using a few litres per 100k's , where as if I had it in neutral down the same hill, it was using less than 1 litre per 100k's just keeping the engine idling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr_will
then you would be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by DamienS
look at the data logs, they mean a lot more than your liberty's trip computer. i could counter your argument by saying that ive seen an 06 golf read 0.0l/100 on downhill stretchs, off throttle, but i dont need to, because the simple fact is that under very low load conditions, the data logs SHOW CLEARLY that the injector pulse is zero. nuff said
^^ Yup, there was a Hondata data log posted up a while back proving this.
rev match and it'll go inQuote:
Originally Posted by mrwillz
doesnt having it in gear increase rpm which can aid stopping/clamping force for braking?
when u mean neutral hoping for a rolling start do u mean i simply ride the clutch? or put it in neutral with the clutch out?Quote:
Originally Posted by Gunter
1 - if your riding the clutch, its doesnt do damage to your tranny, but riding a clutch will shorten clutch life.
2 - if its in neutral with the clutch out, then only thing which is difficult is finding the right gear and easing into a clean launch, a happy medium between hopping into a start and riding the clutch to much.
when i had a manual, i used to go 4th down the 3rd then down to 2nd (only sometimes in no traffic) when its a crawl, and i didnt change the pads ever and i did over 60clicks in it.
bigger question why do u do it?
i went down the gears to slow the car without using breaks and for the fact if i need to get a fast start im in the right gear already and the clutch is out so im not wearing that out either.
just my 2 cents...
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Originally Posted by chicken8
true, but 1st is the hardest to rev match into, and many n00bs will find themselves doing just as much harm to their sychros due to over/under revving whilst trying this
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Originally Posted by ACTI0NMAN-1
being in gear increases rpm which increases the level of deceleration which will occur when you are not touching the accelerater - ie if youre in 2nd gear, say, at 40kmh, and you stop accelerating, you will slow down, but this effect will be much more pronounced if you were doing 80km/h in second gear. the faster the engine is spinning the more it will slow the car down when you are off throttle.
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Originally Posted by Mr_will
Perhaps Subaru does things differently from Honda or VW so perhaps in the case of my old Subaru it is correct, unless of course you have data logs for subaru liberty's....so i MAY NOT be wrong as you are so quick to put it.
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Originally Posted by DamienS
there is nothing super special about your subaru. its a fuel saving feature, so unless youre suggesting subaru arent concerned with fuel efficiency, you need a new argument.
what you have said is basically like saying "well noones ever put a turbo on my specific car, make, model etc, therefore its unreasonable to say a turbo would make it faster". fuel systems do not differ from car to car as much as you obviously think they do.