Not happy with suspension

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Originally Posted by tony1234

Change the shocks and springs(ive got Bilsteins with Eibach springs) or get coilovers,the stock setup is too soft,i lasted 1000kms before i changed mine.

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Thanks Tony... I have already thought about it (and it may be the final result anyway) but the 'circular motion' bounce is a real strange one which is pointing me towards a manufacturer fault with the current setup.

I'm relatively happy with the firmness and handling of the vechicle as is. We generally crawl over any speed humps (and it's not noticeabe over them anyway) but is mainly evident as you're driving over the last dip/bump at the end of a bridge, or a raised highway rail crossing doing 80km or more.

What confuses me is that it will happen even if the bump/dip/rail crossing is totally perpendicular to the road. The car soaks it up, but 'bounces back to the left' a little rather than bouncing in a predictable straight line up-down. Kinda scarey when you're on a right hand bend when it happens! I just don't want to look like a total idiot (like I do now) when I expalin all this to the dealer :confused: Might just have to pull a wheel or two off, and look for obvious shocky oil leaks/loose components etc.....Cheers!

i wish i could so 10km over speed bumps lol, na before i changed my suspension i noticed that too because i was used to a lowered car before my euro the body roll was crazy i felt like i was sliding across my seat, its more a STOCK car kinda thing i dont thing honda will help u much in that manner, personaly i recommend coilover suspension even if u dont wanna lower it just the freedom of all the adjustments that if your willing to pay for they i know things r not cheap these days

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Originally Posted by Crapdaz

60kmh over the speed hump is considered speeding over it especially in a euro.....

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Aren't they called speed humps because you're supposed to speed over them? Otherwise they'd be called slow humps.

...Reminds me of the novel "Fahrenheit 451" set in a totalitarian regime where books are banned and "firemen" light fires with flame throwers to burn the books. At one point, one of the characters said that he'd heard once that "firemen" used to put out fires; which got him an incredulous response like "if they put out fires they wouldn't be called firemen".

Of course 60km/h over a slow hump is too fast. Now, if they were really called slow humps people would think you'd be talking about something completely different.

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Originally Posted by SPQR

Aren't they called speed humps because you're supposed to speed over them? Otherwise they'd be called slow humps.

...Reminds me of the novel "Fahrenheit 451" set in a totalitarian regime where books are banned and "firemen" light fires with flame throwers to burn the books. At one point, one of the characters said that he'd heard once that "firemen" used to put out fires; which got him an incredulous response like "if they put out fires they wouldn't be called firemen".

Of course 60km/h over a slow hump is too fast. Now, if they were really called slow humps people would think you'd be talking about something completely different.

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thanks for flaming, but you know what they are called.
and i am just restating the fact that he is going too fast over the speed hump (to reduce speed as i dont know if your being sarcastic or not) in comparison to the softness of the stock euro suspension.

Anyways, don't mean to get your hyped or anything.

Cheers,
Daz

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Originally Posted by SPQR

Aren't they called speed humps because you're supposed to speed over them? Otherwise they'd be called slow humps.

...Reminds me of the novel "Fahrenheit 451" set in a totalitarian regime where books are banned and "firemen" light fires with flame throwers to burn the books. At one point, one of the characters said that he'd heard once that "firemen" used to put out fires; which got him an incredulous response like "if they put out fires they wouldn't be called firemen".

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LOL, reminds me of gun smith and black smith. So what does dick smith sell?

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Originally Posted by Monty77

Thanks Tony... I have already thought about it (and it may be the final result anyway) but the 'circular motion' bounce is a real strange one which is pointing me towards a manufacturer fault with the current setup.

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Get a wheel alignment done and find out your front toe, camber and castor. Sounds like you have the wheel on one side slightly ahead of the wheel on the other side, hence getting the circular bump, which should only happen if you are crossing a speed bump at an angle.

Dammit i put a post in about lift off oversteer, bald tyres, driver behavior, tyre pressure and stuff and the post timed out. It was GOLD i tell yas!

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Originally Posted by aaronng

LOL, reminds me of gun smith and black smith. So what does dick smith sell?

Get a wheel alignment done and find out your front toe, camber and castor. Sounds like you have the wheel on one side slightly ahead of the wheel on the other side, hence getting the circular bump, which should only happen if you are crossing a speed bump at an angle.

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Thanks Aaron. The wheel alignment was originally done by the dealer on delivery (well....really by beaurepaires) but what you said sounds very close to what I'm experiencing.
I should have given that a go first, just hoping there wasn't suspension changes needed beforehand. There is no visible oil leaks or loose components so it's likely a bad alignment right from the start...:mad:

Thanks for that mate...

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Originally Posted by Monty77

Thanks Aaron. The wheel alignment was originally done by the dealer on delivery (well....really by beaurepaires) but what you said sounds very close to what I'm experiencing.
I should have given that a go first, just hoping there wasn't suspension changes needed beforehand. There is no visible oil leaks or loose components so it's likely a bad alignment right from the start...:mad:

Thanks for that mate...

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Did you buy your car used? There were some Euro owners who complained about the car following the slant of cambered roads (although I think this is not a problem, more of the car's characteristic). The solution from the dealer was to adjust the subframe so that it is pointed slightly to the side to counteract it. You might have a car with an adjusted subframe. Just need to confirm it through the alignment printout, or you can get a mechanic to loosen the 4 subframe bolts and realign the subframe to the chassis through the 2 alignment holes. This should set it back to factory spec and all you need to do then is to get a front alignment done.

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Originally Posted by aaronng

Did you buy your car used? There were some Euro owners who complained about the car following the slant of cambered roads (although I think this is not a problem, more of the car's characteristic). The solution from the dealer was to adjust the subframe so that it is pointed slightly to the side to counteract it. You might have a car with an adjusted subframe. Just need to confirm it through the alignment printout, or you can get a mechanic to loosen the 4 subframe bolts and realign the subframe to the chassis through the 2 alignment holes. This should set it back to factory spec and all you need to do then is to get a front alignment done.

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No, I purchased it new, and I didn't get an alignment printout (as they do masses of Hondas for dealer pre-delivery) I have a good wheel aligner in Cairns (he is really fussy and pedantic with his work) so i'll take it to him I think. I will pick his brains though (on the details you mentioned).
Again, thanks for your help.

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Originally Posted by Monty77

No, I purchased it new, and I didn't get an alignment printout (as they do masses of Hondas for dealer pre-delivery) I have a good wheel aligner in Cairns (he is really fussy and pedantic with his work) so i'll take it to him I think. I will pick his brains though (on the details you mentioned).
Again, thanks for your help.

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Since you bought your car new, then I doubt that they would have adjusted your subframe. Just start with getting a wheel alignment printout first.

Aaron, whats the specs for a good alignment setup for the euro?

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Originally Posted by tron07

Aaron, whats the specs for a good alignment setup for the euro?

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What are you after? Straight line stability, increased steering response, mid-corner grip? Choose 1.