Civic vtir coupe (2000) and red key

there are two types of Honda Factory imobilizer system
1 uses the red key system the other works the same but woth out the red key
the red key will not start the car as you guys have found out, trying to start the car with red key will not do any damage, it will not wipe the black keys from your imobiliser unit. the red key will only be used when the Honda dealer needs to add extra Black keys to your car, the red key has to be inserted once the tech is told to insert it by the PGMFI tester which is used to program new keys within 30 sec . ( they now use the HDS tablet PC thinggy ) then they insert however many black keys you may want to start the car. then the red key again to compleat the lern proccess..

system 1 had red key for that purpose only. if you loose your red key it will cost you. you have to buy a new imobilser unit which cums with an uncut red key.. the imobiliser unit and the red key are a match pair and cannot be mixed and matched, in other words the imobiliser unit is useless with out the red key. you used to have to buy the whole lock set once apon a time if you lost your red key.

system 2 does not have red key, it was 1st introduced in the 98 Accord / ledgends / oddesey. you could program the imobiliser unit in a same type of manner with out the red key. I think all 2000 cars and on have system 2 no red key.

with both systems your could loose 1 black key and have it removed from the imobiliser unit. that lost key will open the car, turn the ignition but she wont crank or start if you push started it.

I hope this clears up all your thoughts on the Honda imobiliser

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Originally Posted by ECU-MAN";p="106583

there are two types of Honda Factory imobilizer system
1 uses the red key system the other works the same but woth out the red key
the red key will not start the car as you guys have found out, trying to start the car with red key will not do any damage, it will not wipe the black keys from your imobiliser unit. the red key will only be used when the Honda dealer needs to add extra Black keys to your car, the red key has to be inserted once the tech is told to insert it by the PGMFI tester which is used to program new keys within 30 sec . ( they now use the HDS tablet PC thinggy ) then they insert however many black keys you may want to start the car. then the red key again to compleat the lern proccess..

system 1 had red key for that purpose only. if you loose your red key it will cost you. you have to buy a new imobilser unit which cums with an uncut red key.. the imobiliser unit and the red key are a match pair and cannot be mixed and matched, in other words the imobiliser unit is useless with out the red key. you used to have to buy the whole lock set once apon a time if you lost your red key.

system 2 does not have red key, it was 1st introduced in the 98 Accord / ledgends / oddesey. you could program the imobiliser unit in a same type of manner with out the red key. I think all 2000 cars and on have system 2 no red key.

with both systems your could loose 1 black key and have it removed from the imobiliser unit. that lost key will open the car, turn the ignition but she wont crank or start if you push started it.

I hope this clears up all your thoughts on the Honda imobiliser

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You can get another black key made without actually obtaining the red key. When I origionally got my car, it only came with one black key. Honda miraculously found a cheap way to get a me another black key (without using the red key) when they realised it was going to come out of their pocket (warranty) to replace the immobiliser unit etc. It cost like $90 odd (of Honda's) dollars to get a key cut at this automotive locksmiths, as apposed to $800+ to replace everything. I'll bet if i didnt have the warrenty id be forking out for a new immobiliser unit. **** Honda - Penny pinchers.

thats right . what car do you have..
there are a few ways of cheating the system but im not going there. I have heard of NON Honda Dealers being able to program these things but I have never seen there methods or equipment. what I wrote above is what a dealer will say if you went there with the question. I am unaware of any feeking ways to get around the red key that a dealer would do to program your system if your lost your red key.

It was the Honda dealership that told me where to go and get it done.

Maybe this abit off the topic, but wat i got when i got my EM1 new from the dealer was 2 black keys and a very tiny rectangle plate with a no. code written on it, it was found in ur leather manual folder thingy.....isnt this wat u had to bring to honda if u need a new key??? and did anyone else get this too???

Yep, I got that too mate.

the metal tab is the code to get a new key cut if yo dont have a sample.

I took my Genuine Honda key to the locksmiths and they made a copy there cost me $5 it works fine and has been so for about 12 months. I am guessing you guys are only talking about if you have a second key with a slightly different cut????? by the way my car is a 94 VTI Accord.

the rectangle with a number is so you have an untainted source forthe key image. if you use a key over, and over, and over, it starts to wear and thus an exact copy of how the original key is impossible to achieve. i didn't get the rectangle when i got my car so unfortunately i had to get a copy made with a worn key, and as a result it only opens the hatch one way up. perfect excuse for remote hatch release though:)

man does that mean i should ask for the red key from the dealer then??..i prob should hey..

hey boys it you change the computer of you car due to an engine swap, cna you still start you car with you original black key

OH crap! i jus got my coupe yesterday..and the guy only gave me to black keys.