CTR - Motor Bang For Your Buck 2007

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Originally Posted by aaronng

What was the lap time of the Aurion and 3MPS?

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The Aurion had ESP kicking in all the time so its time suffered a lot (cant turn it off).

Here are lap times

Evo IX 69.39
350Z Track 70.41
Clubsport R8 70.69
Lotus Elise S 71.20
VE SS 71.49
Audi S3 71.49
FPV Force 6 71.60
Megane F1 R26 71.90
Audi TT 2.0T 72.19
Liberty GT STI 72.20
Mazda 3 MPS 72.81
Astra VXR 73.20
Mini Cooper S 73.69
Pug 207 GTI 73.79
Civic Type R 74.49
Volvo C30 T5 74.89
Colt Ralliart 75.12
VW Golf GT 75.29 (not the GTI)
Fiesta XR4 75.51
Aurion SX6 76.11
Swift Sport 77.29
Punto Sport 77.59

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Originally Posted by Jaso

Its funny cause I seem to remember reading a motor review where they rate the civic better than the gti/Cooper s but here it ranks worse than the s/gt...go figure...

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I am pretty sure that was Wheels magazine. BFYB is based on a formula too - so there are categories of performance (lap time, 0-1000m, etc, etc) vs price.

if you read the judges verdicts, it's obvious that the CTR is a love it/hate it car.

it has a 1st, a few 2nd & 3rd and nothing lower than 4th iirc. some people will love it to death while some will think its ordinary and not living up to the R badge.

and i kinda agree with Charles' column in the latest ASM. the good old days are long gone and we better get used to these newer breeds of performance cars.

with regards to the ranking, it's all about bang per buck. the CTR ranks lowly becos it's costly for it's performance and it's kinda expected that MPS 3 etc will walk it with much more output at similar price. however sometimes there are more to driving than outright speed. that's why cars like Mx5 has it's appeal.

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Originally Posted by Philip Lee

and i kinda agree with Charles' column in the latest ASM. the good old days are long gone and we better get used to these newer breeds of performance cars.

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True... once we got into flying cars then all of our good ol EK, DC2, NSX, etc will be goooonee... :p (big question is... when? :p)

ontopic: CTR seems make a good lap time out of those 30-40k dont you think?

WTF Mazda MPS3 got 1st?

Where's the Ford XR5?

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Originally Posted by Waggy

WTF Mazda MPS3 got 1st?

Where's the Ford XR5?

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its not even worthed to test :D jkz...

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Originally Posted by Waggy

WTF Mazda MPS3 got 1st?

Where's the Ford XR5?

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pretty sure the xr5 is much higher in the price category. last time i checked it was 45-55k

http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Conte...1024&c=DFYPage

It's $37k. It's actually one of the cheapest and best hot hatches available as long as you can get past the badge.

Good power, great styling and excellent creature comforts.

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Originally Posted by Waggy

http://www.ford.com.au/servlet/Conte...1024&c=DFYPage

It's $37k. It's actually one of the cheapest and best hot hatches available as long as you can get past the badge.

Good power, great styling and excellent creature comforts.

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stand corrected, again i was just going by what i saw last time (think it was when it first launched).

The problem with Ford (according to me) is that its too generic. Everything for the Aus public seems to be too mainstream and too conservative.

It was 35999 when first launched.

um....7.7s and 15.5 for 1/4...
that alone makes it obvious it's not worth being called a TypeR...

but then again, the figures for the MPS3 seems slow too....???

Dont believe those figures for a second..
The figures that they produced for the DC2R's 1/4 mile were dismal as well and werent anything close to low 14s as we all know they are capable of.