Thoughts on the Type R

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Im no expert with cars but this is what i think.........

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I think that sums it up.

The person who wrote that mini review at the top has owned both cars and it wasn't a turbo vs NA arguement / debate.

He was merely pointing out that for the ITR to make any decent power you have to be a competent driver and know which gear to drop into in order to benefit from VTEC. Yes driving in a straight line is easy, but come street / track racing, you have to know how to drive the car in order to take full advantage of its 141kW of power. That's just one thing. Other things like lift off oversteer also come into it, so it is pretty much a drivers car.

wat hes saying is tat driving a VTEC is as hard or as easy as driving a turbo...i would like to know if it is too... cos hes saying tat u push it to the limit when driving a vtec...changing it before the redline and the same goes for turbo...and its quite logical as well...if u were to drive a vtec or a turbo...wouldnt u push it right before the redline before changing the gear?? not sure but yeah...

i came here to find out some answer from you honda experts... :D

depends on the car..
i mean if yuor pushing it before redline....say for e.g your car redlines at 7200rpm and its not making any power after 7000rpm....then whats the point? you'll lose time....push it to 7000rpm thats where peak power ends and you'll end up having a better time.

keep in mind.... if you want top speed...sure redline it....
if you want acceleration... change gears at peak power....

true...didnt thought of that...thx mate...

Yep when u start losing torque doesn't mean its necessarily the redline.

Not exactly.

Funny you chose the EG as an example......my EG makes max power at around 6,800rpm, but from there all the way to the 7,200 cut out it maintains that max power. So it IS worth shifting at 7,200 becasue i'll drop higher into my powerband on the next up shift.

Anyways lets keep it on track yeah.

I know this because i've seen the dyno plot

=)
depends on the car....
in my R now i shift at 8.4 all the time when im racing....
but in my rolla before..even though it redlines at 6.2.....
i shift at 6..because its slower at 6.2 =)...
and i get better 0-100 times =)

so tat would make driving vtec and turbo car the same?? o_O ?

go drive an sr20det sss and then drive a type-r. as much as i love the way the b-series vtecs develop power, it can't match the no-fuss, wafty mid-range grunt of the turbo mill.

fwiw, both cars have very similar power outputs, it's just the way they develop their power that makes them so different. the type-r is really frantic, whereas the sss was nice and easy. in terms of driveability, there is no contest.

fun, on the other hand, is another issue entirely :)

im talking about the amount of skills required to drive the vtec/turbo cars...which one would require more skills or they are about the same?

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Originally Posted by supernatural

im talking about the amount of skills required to drive the vtec/turbo cars...which one would require more skills or they are about the same?

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Re-read the last paragraph of the first post.

ahhh kk....cheers wynode... ;)