That's what I run.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkii_
Plenty of clearance on the guards when lowered 50mm or so and the tyres aren't "too" expensive".
The 45mm offset will increase you track by 20mm....:thumbsup:
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That's what I run.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Darkii_
Plenty of clearance on the guards when lowered 50mm or so and the tyres aren't "too" expensive".
The 45mm offset will increase you track by 20mm....:thumbsup:
Would that 20mm affect the speedo reading much? reading higher or lower?
No, the offset will not change your speedo reading whatsoever. It's the overall diameter of your tyres that will change the speedo reading (as in if you change your rims and tyres and doesn't follow the oem spec anymore).
the 20mm increase in track he's referring to means that the distance between left and right tyres increased by 20mm over standard oem spec.
ahh ok, thanks for clearing that up euro77. I'm going from the stock 16" to 17" but, so i'm guessing theres going to be a change
use the tyre calculator to calculate what's the best size going up from 16" to 17" to keep your speedo reading as accurate as possible.
Example of tyre calculator : http://www.miata.net/garage/tirecalc.html
There are heaps other tyre calculators out there :)
rule of thumb, if going up 1" in rim size, increase the width of the tyre by 20, and reduce the profile of the tyre by 10. So if original spec is 205/55R16, going to 17 you should use 225/45R17.
Awsome, just what i'm planning on getting. Thanks a lot for all the info euro77.
No worries.
Oh, don't forget that the width of the tyres depend on the width of the rim as well, as in you can't fit tyres that are too wide for the rims. For 225, recommended is 7.5" - 9" rim width. So it's not advisable to put 225 on a 17x7" rims.
Oh really? The stock euro lux rims are 17 x 7.0 JJ with 225/45 R17 tyres? Should i be looking at different size tyres then to run on a 7" width rim
Hmm.. you're right then, 225 would be fine. I was just following the rim width calculator on http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg2.html
Would a set of BBS RG-R fit in the following sizes?
18x7.5 +45 - 215 Goodyear RE-02's
18x8.5 +49 - 225 Goodyear RE-02's
18x7.5 +45 - 215 Goodyear RE-02's <-- yes
18x8.5 +49 - 225 Goodyear RE-02's <-- yes, may scrub in full turn
also i am guessing your running profile 40 right?
yes.
215/40/18
225/40/18
I didn't think the rears would scrub in a turn?
no i meant the front, rear is fine.Quote:
Originally Posted by ludecrs
I doubt the front would scrub considering that it's 7.5 wide. Also using 215.
well he mentioned two sizes.
and depending on how low he is lowering the car.
if its stock height or not a fully sick drop then there is no way its gonna scrub
what if it was lowered and with the 2 different offset and width, having 7.5 at the front with +45 offset and 8.5 at the back with 49 offset ? would it scrub if the euro was to be lowered ? because i have interest ludecrs's rims thats why =P
it really depends on how much its going to be lowered... if about 1-2 finger space left then i wouldn't even be worried abit...
and wouldn't putting the 8.5 at the front and 7.5 at the rear will be better off with the amount of understeer we get. as there is more traction at the front so we will lose the rear a little bit more.
well this only applies if ur planning on tracking it :p
lol yeah i know but it would be weird having a wider rims on street. and even if i do plan to track it, i can always swap them around just before track day comes =).
and would 8.5width fit at the front ? i think 8" is the max :S correct me if im wrong
nah its all good, im running 8.5 wide front and rear.
as akina has said it will be fine.
Issues with 19x8?
tyres would probably be around 30-35 thickness ay? and i would some what lose the "luxury ride".
18x8 would be better true?
just seeking confirmation lol. but i want to see the difference with 18 vs 19
35 is okay for ride comfort.
but mainly depends on your suspension you've got installed.
Planning to get tein mono flex. and keep it like 14cm off the floor or something dont want to have to hassle too much about humps lol.
do you have a lipkit on it or OEM with nothing?Quote:
Originally Posted by mattchuej8
completely OEM, just bought it from dealer 2 weeks ago lol.
I would really appreciate(x100) if an owner with 19's and an owner with 18's could send me pics. im after a specific look without having to have dumpage.
look at my appearance gallery at all the pics i have.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattchuej8
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...hlight=crapdaz
see my car cause i am running CE28N (+50offset) and Gramlights 57 Max time attack (+43offset) both in size 18x7.5 with 225/40/18 tyres.
The rear in the latest pics are the lowest setting, the front has 0.5-1finger gap depending what wheels i have on them.
Hope this helps.
Daz
oh mad, massive help daz. +1 thanks.
how bout 20x8.5?
what tyres would you need to maintain comfort?
nO WORRIEs!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by mattchuej8
I have 2 sets of wheels
Both same size 18x7.5 but 2 diff offset +43 (gramlights 57 max TA wrapped in dunlop sp sport maxxx 225/40/18) and +50 (CE28N wrapped in Toyo T1R 225/40/18).
Without changing damper setting on my coilovers by driving the car and swapping tyres with same tyre pressure they both ride differently, the toyo more uncomfortable than the T1R but also could be due to the fact that CE28N are lighter.
20 i think to be safe you'd need to run 30 or 35profile but might be a close to whether you need to roll your guards or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by mofolo
Those sizes you'll need to ask the baller euro owners.
lol.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crapdaz
The only reason I ask is because the Evulve's E15 come in 18's and 20's.
I wanted 19's damnit!
possible to run 19" on 40-45 profile tyres?
40 possible but alot of negative camber + rolling of both front and rear guards.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattchuej8
and also your speedo will be out of whack coz the rolling diameter is larger than stock. So prob have to get it re-calibrated or something. 35 profile on 19s isnt to bad....consider it a massage :pQuote:
Originally Posted by Crapdaz
It's not worth getting it calibrated.Quote:
Originally Posted by TRaNz
Has anyone done it before? i havent heard of anyone gettin their speedo re-calibrated. They just go with bigger tyre and wheels and guess match their speed with other cars around them....LOLQuote:
Originally Posted by Crapdaz
Oh thats right lol. totally forgot about the speedo issue. i was thinking comfort and looks. gah --"
lol.
what profile would u run on 20"?
30?
with the correct profile tyre, theres no need to recalibrate the speedo,
ie if you run a 225 30 20, its only about 11mm bigger. RTA gives you 15mm so thats fine and perfectly LEGAL in that area...But its the load rating you gotta watch out for, thats the other part of the problem(not to mention rim width as well)...
For better comfort and looks, a 225 35 20 would be better, but this will throw the speedo out, and may also cause rubbing, however you could opt for a 235 30 20, this is wider and also higher so it will give a better ride. From memory it borders on the 15mm( i think its 16.? to be exact), but depends on your calculator so it should be fine. It is usually more expensive(from other places) though as its not as common as a 225 30 20.
On a side note....has anyone who has replaced their standard 17 inch tire size with say like a 225 35? This size is more common then what honda fitted out the lux with and is 20 bucks cheaper or more in some cases.
Any adverse effects on steering, handling etc etc?
Do you mean 235/45/17?That's the size that Commodores and Falcons use.This size is more commonly used and therefore cheaper.Not sure how you'd go with this size on the Euro as far as rolling diameter goes.PM Taleb above,he'd know.Quote:
Originally Posted by 10KRPM
Shouldnt too much of an issue since it is only a few more mm...........thats just an assumption though.
I'm thinking the same.You'd get more of a bulge with the tyre on the rim on the 235 than the 225 so ride comfort may be slightly improved but handling may be reduced marginally.Quote:
Originally Posted by 10KRPM
Yay or Nay!?
pics + specs below.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...U/Picture2.png
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h1...U/Picture1.png
got a photo of your euro matt?
lookz alright.
I say Yay.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattchuej8
make sure you get hub centric rings and a center cap to reduce hub corrosion.
http://i64.photobucket.com/albums/h196/M4TCHU/tint1.jpg
the car is pretty much stock, but im hoping/have a feeling those rims will suit mine nicely.
tint and entertainment done. rims next and soon when i get my tax! :)
the specs on the rims seem in order ay?
yeh will look nice.
are they chrome or gloss or matte finish? will look good none the less.
Hyper silver center with stainless lip. pretty much a gloss :)
i was thinking chrome butttt...
gloss all the way....or matte no way would i choose chrome but if it suits your car better go for it.
Try test fit or something first before choosing.
Just going through the posts here - been thinking of replacing my stock 16s with 18s. Looking at perhaps the devino gravity or BSA equivalent (two different tyre shops in Sydney).
I just went into one of the shops and he suggested a tyre size of 225/40/18 but that would put the increased diameter by 16mm (which as you guys all know is beyond the 15mm RTA allowance). He said it wouldn't be a problem. Anyone else have any experience here?
I would've thought a closer size would be the 245/35/18 tyres.
Any suggestions/experiences?
Stargazer, 225/40/18 is the right size. Thats what most people with 18" wheels are running on including myself. Check your calcs again, the diameter should not have increased by 16mm.
Sorry, I'm a bit of a noob with tyres. I used the calc on http://www.carbibles.com/tyre_bible_pg2.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by racerwannabe
It calculates the circumference of my 205/55/16 to be 1985.17mm and the circumference of the 225/40/18 to be 2001.82mm, a diff of 16.65mm.
The 245/35/18 only gave a 10mm difference (decrease) in circumference. I did notice this tyre size seems to be less popular - some manufacturers don't seem to even make this size. But I do like the thought of having wider tyres too. My mind is boggling at all these numbers and choices! Will the 245/35/18 fit a 18x7.5 wheel?
You would be pushing it, you really need an 8 inch wheel for a 245. Max on a 7.5 inch would be a 225.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stargazer
Try this calculator I found it useful when I was looking for wheels.
http://wheelsmaster.com/rt_specs.jsp
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sludge
Thanks. Gave it a go. I should be looking at diameter difference and not circumference? I think that may have been my mistake.
But that above site shows the tire diameter to be 20mm less (and circumference to be 62mm less??).
(Just tried yet another calc at miata.net and it's only 6mm diff... Am I being RTA paranoid about the whole thing?)
you should use the rolling diameter calc on www.1010tires.com.
you can compare with stock rolling diameter.
http://www.1010tires.com/tiresizecalculator.asp
best to stay within aprox 1.5% imo, but ppl do crazy things.
depends how wide your tyres, if you were on a 7.5" i would preferably go with a 225 or max 235,Quote:
Originally Posted by racerwannabe
8 inch max i'd go is around 245 no more.
Sorry, didn't make it clear. I was going for 18x7.5 wheels (but will 18x8.0 fit a 2004 accord euro?)
yeah. right offset though. :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Stargazer
Quote:
Originally Posted by racerwannabe
yeh choose the right offset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stargazer
Between +40(lower) to +55(higher) will work. (Not the only offsets available though, but the range the euro would be suitable for)
+40 more likely to touch wheel arches at a higher ride height.
+55 sits inside wheel arch so has more room for lowering.
+40 will give you a flush look, and by having it further out will mean you will have more negative camber than someone who has a higher offset wheel.
Ingalls or any camberkit is a must when lowering.
hope this helps you even though it's all been covered....
Thanks for all the help guys. Think I will go with the 18x7.5 with 225/40/18 combo.
Another suitable one would be 18x8 with 235/40/18Quote:
Originally Posted by Stargazer
Quote:
Originally Posted by Crapdaz
Ugh, you've just given the king of indecision another choice to make!
Ok, thanks for all the advice guys. Found a nail in my rear tyre, so took that as a sign from above and went to get the new wheels and tyres today.
Ended up getting the 18x7.5 Lenso GF7 black with chrome lip, and a set of kumho KU23 tyres.
One thing I forgot to ask the tyre place is what is the correct pressure for these tyres (225/40/18R).
max is 50PSI they are capable of but for comfort you can stay at 32 as recommended by factory wheels else play around to whatever is comfortable for you, i normally use between 34-38.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stargazer
The pressure really depends on what tyre you have.