2.7l n/a s2k or turbo s2k?

When i said limit originaly, i meant my moral limit not skill limit, no one knows there skill limit ever its a constantly changing situation out there. Ohh you've raced on a track congrats with that your soo skillful you must be 100% ready all the time now with all those dogs running across a track and all ey.. Man i meant moral limit i know not to speed in a school zone or in built up areas and i know not to do rediculous speeds. And no im not a p plater ive been off them for years... and to vtecmachine not every p-plater male between 17-20 is a fully sick racer guy some people are so misfortunate to be stuck driving a van or a 121 or other non 'racey' cars... Also you say P plates are for learning actually they have a thing called L plates for that ya know...



ANYWAY WE ARE COMPLETLY OFF TOPIC SO PLEASE STOP HARASSING F20C OR TALKING ABOUT POINTLESS ARGUEMENTS AND GET BACK TO THE OP's QUESTION!! BECAUSE ME MYSELF WOULD LIKE TO KNOW WHAT HE IS PLANNING TO DO WITH HIS CAR, AFTER ALL THIS IS A CAR FORUM!

P.s. we all know pensioners cause the most accidents really... :P

i knew what you were on about gmonkey :| lol. anyway i am still leaning towards the N/A 2.7l as im a man of n/a power.. but now im looking at buying a bike -.-

*edit* and wtf your saying RED p platers? im sorry the green p platers are all nice and safe driving? lol i have seen one red p plate accident since the red and green p plate laws come out and it was a chick driving. and "showing me all the things i can do in my car"? so your saying all the things my car can do.. like drifting burnouts etc etc? your telling me all these people off their p plates have experience so their able to do that? and how would you get experience on the road may i ask? driving in a straight line doing 60-70 sometimes 80 and the occ. 100 freeway runs. i highly doubt these people off their p plates learnt on a track as many of you are saying to do.. and infact i've only ever had one close call and im sure many people here have. and all that close call was a gutter job on my rim. oh and i've only ever copped speeding fine. infact its my only fine.

and vtecmachine i dont know where you live but i see many p platers driving at the suggested speed limit in melbourne. and i can proudly say i do drive on or under the limit more than im over it. and how can you compare track racing to everyday driving? circumstances are different on a track you dont have anything to distract you like a kid playing ball on the side of the road or massive as trucks driving in the middle of two lanes swaying left to right eitherway, driving on a track is so much different to everyday driving. well one would think so as it seems nothing alike.

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thanks moey, and yeah turbo does seem like the right way to go, but maybe wait sometime and see if anyone turbos a 2.7l if its possibly?

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I hope you have a very good and trustworthy mechanic. Even if you do, prepare to pay thousands and thousands of dollars for the turbo setup.

In regards to track racing... I was clearly pointing out that, that is the only way you can test your limits and the cars limits. By no means did I say that racing on track teachs you absolutally everything about driving, and I did not once say I am an awesome driver because I have been on a track.

Geeang, summed it u well. If you can find your limits on the street, you are a retard.

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how does a p plater get this kind of $$ lol its beyond me :P

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please OP share with us ur secret. i have my theories.....

but yer just leave ur s2000 and wait for ur opens then NSX turbo. that will be heaps cooler

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1. You'd need an engineers certificate to even register your new capacity because your displacement would be increasing by more than 15%.
2. Even if you 'just bought it like that' it would still be deemed illegal and they'd make you leave your car there on the road while you caught a cab home.
3. You would most likely lose your license for it AGAIN, which would make the penalty even harsher.
4. Unless you're Mr Moneybags and you intend to keep it as strictly a weekend/track only thing, stroking it to 2.7L isn't viable.

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1. Heard of dodgies ? :p
2. Cop won't notice, unless they open up the block

man if your ready to spend about 20k on your car then be ready to just to get the parts and pay an extra 5 or 6 for building and tuning, not only find the right engine builder. im doing a similar build 2.2 toda stroker with spec c cams and itbs let me know if you want some info on what im using and what to use

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1. Heard of dodgies ? :p
2. Cop won't notice, unless they open up the block

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1. heard of getting seriously raped my insurance, and the law, when you eventually have an accident with a dodgy?

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1. heard of getting seriously raped my insurance, and the law, when you eventually have an accident with a dodgy?

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seriously raped my insurance?. what do you mean exactly?
insurance companies arent gonna say. "Ohh you had an accident , IT must of been the extra stroke on his motor!!!!" Lets open it up and check!

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seriously raped my insurance?. what do you mean exactly?
insurance companies arent gonna say. "Ohh you had an accident , IT must of been the extra stroke on his motor!!!!" Lets open it up and check!

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Say you have an accident that causes $100,000 worth of damage and writes off multiple cars, and you're at fault.
Insurance assessor will seriously COMB through the wreckage and all evidence, WHEN (not if) they find that you haven't registered/disclosed the major modifications, they will cancel your insurance and refuse payout under duty of disclosure.

Then, this will result in you being 100k in damages out of pocket, and liable to be sued by ANY of the parties affected.

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Say you have an accident that causes $100,000 worth of damage and writes off multiple cars, and you're at fault.
Insurance assessor will seriously COMB through the wreckage and all evidence, WHEN (not if) they find that you haven't registered/disclosed the major modifications, they will cancel your insurance and refuse payout under duty of disclosure.

Then, this will result in you being 100k in damages out of pocket, and liable to be sued by ANY of the parties affected.

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lmao if you cause an accident that accumaltes $100,000 worth of damage and writes off multiple cars, ur mostly likely going to die in that crash. Your talking in extremes, in real life, no copper or insurance is going to open up your engine, not unless they have suspision of stolen parts

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lmao if you cause an accident that accumaltes $100,000 worth of damage and writes off multiple cars, ur mostly likely going to die in that crash. Your talking in extremes, in real life, no copper or insurance is going to open up your engine, not unless they have suspision of stolen parts

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ANY accident with which you are at fault gives cause for your insurance company to comb through your car and and tell you to **** off so that they don't have to pay up.

I don't know if you have any real experience with dealing with insurers, because if you did then you'd know that they will find ANY reason not to pay up.

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ANY accident with which you are at fault gives cause for your insurance company to comb through your car and and tell you to **** off so that they don't have to pay up.

I don't know if you have any real experience with dealing with insurers, because if you did then you'd know that they will find ANY reason not to pay up.

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exactly!. even if you had differnt wheels on, they will fk you up for it>. So how bout we just leave our cars stock standard! :thumbsup:

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exactly!. even if you had differnt wheels on, they will fk you up for it>. So how bout we just leave our cars stock standard! :thumbsup:

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How about we pay for some ones life support for the rest of our lives

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It is possible to declare your mods to an insurer. Its usually Preformance mods which will void your insurance.

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Originally Posted by geeang

1. heard of getting seriously raped my insurance, and the law, when you eventually have an accident with a dodgy?

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Wasn't your fault, it was the engineer's fault, you thought everything was legit ;) Hence why they lose their licenses and THEY pay the cost haha.

lol @ tiksie i like your thinking :P

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exactly!. even if you had differnt wheels on, they will fk you up for it>. So how bout we just leave our cars stock standard! :thumbsup:

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How about we pay for some ones life support for the rest of our lives

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It is possible to declare your mods to an insurer. Its usually Preformance mods which will void your insurance.

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Exactly, you declare all of your mods to your insurer.
That's what the 'duty of disclosure' is, you disclose everything on your car and they 'agree' to insure it on your policy and then you'll be safe.

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lmao if you cause an accident that accumaltes $100,000 worth of damage and writes off multiple cars, ur mostly likely going to die in that crash. Your talking in extremes, in real life, no copper or insurance is going to open up your engine, not unless they have suspision of stolen parts

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... or you rear end a Ferrari F430 at 60km/h. Then you are looking at around that much in damage. Geeang isn't talking about extremes here. What about infrastructure damage? Say you blow up a petrol station or something. Or do what a friend did, and loose control of a Tarago at 50km/h in the wet, hit a telegraph pole, which fell on a house.

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ANY accident with which you are at fault gives cause for your insurance company to comb through your car and and tell you to **** off so that they don't have to pay up.

I don't know if you have any real experience with dealing with insurers, because if you did then you'd know that they will find ANY reason not to pay up.

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This is very true, and hense why it is good to have your car fully engineered... properly. It's really quite hard to find a dodgy RTA engineer. They make enough money doing legit stuff, then doing things on the down low.

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exactly!. even if you had differnt wheels on, they will fk you up for it>. So how bout we just leave our cars stock standard! :thumbsup:

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If you have wheels that are over the legal limit - then yes they will screw you for it. That's why 18" on a DC2 is silly. Wheel size limits are there for a reason. So if someone crashs because of their 18's, and it can be proved, insurance will not cover you - simple as that.

anyway point being i was asking a question on what to do with the mods for my car. none of this crap. i could be the worlds best driver for any of you know.

Stroke it :D No turbo.

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All I can say is that we don't allow street racing posts because we don't want members to get in trouble. If cops do contact Ozhonda for the IP address of the poster, we will have to give it to them as we have no excuse to withhold information.

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Just wondering whether this has happened before? Feel free to P.M me.

stroke it with a supercharger instead of a turbo later.. but do induction/injection mods first, if thats enough go for the big buck stuff, start cheaper and work your way up... you will have to get bigger injectors probs for a turbo and stuff anyway so why not get them first and see if you like it or if you need more still :P.. cant wait to see what you do :)

yeah gmonkey everyone is saying cant wait till they see what i do but.. the problem is now convincing me on keeping my car lol.. i rode my mates bike the other day and its made me want a bike more then a car lol..

y not both :P lol you got your bike licence already?? if not you would be stuck on a 250cc or less anyway (that is if you will follor bike laws hehe) but if your going to get a bike make sure its a cbr :P

yeah nah im buying a cbrr :P lol. well i got told today i should have a car also cause bikes arnt the funnest in the wet.. so a car can take over wet days and bike gets the clear days.. =] well just to start another heated argument ill get a busa turbo and run from cops? lol. just joking.