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^^^ I just read your build thread... Looks good... Get some vids up....
I would expect more... but as you say in ur thread... You dont like thinking about it blowing up.....
Im planning for forged internals.... then the usual bits and pieces... Was thinking sleeves but they are a bit exxy.... (plus im not planning for like 600hp.....)
It is fun.. till you want to up the boost... then thats when it gets disappointing as you know you can only push it soo far as the internals will go...
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Originally Posted by Webby_roller
Thanks Geat for only 8psi man :p
Most B16's get 160wk at 10psi
I think Traction will be the problem at this point heheh
Only a little bit hahaha... But once it hooks up, it will fly....Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukezen27
its good to hear that your going to do it right better once than an expensive mistake! mine will always be slow but basically there is no turbo on her anymore i have taken some pics i will try to get them up later and some of the new turbo size in the engine bay...... looks cool the comp cover nearly touches the bonnet :P so just to buy the new parts for the cooler setup and start on that and putting the gate into the manifold and re coating it
^^ cheers for that... I would rather have it done poperly.. as its my daily, and i dont have another car. So if it breaks... yeh...
But oh well.. do it once, do it properly, and fill her full of boost... Actually a quick Q... Who has a low boost and a high boost? Or does everyone just get it tuned for one boost level and run that?
I know some ECU's have seperate maps for high/low boost, but im not too sure if hondata do...Can someone clarify?
Cheers
you need a boost controller to run hi/lo settings.
Your tuner will be able to set them up for u
s300 has secondary maps ability,the s100/200 dont.
if u do go down the hondata route,for the extent of the build ur planning,just go the extra yard now on the s300,u wont regret it,just make sure u dont use a jdm ecu for the base & u will have full boost control,so theres a coupla hundred bucks saved on electronic boost controller,all u need is like a $80 solenoid.
u'll more than likely spend less time on the dyno with the s300,so theres some more money saved.
onboard datalogging is great for troubleshooting little intermittent probs too,so even more money saved.the list goes on,more cash up front but it will gradually come back to u.
if u do a bit of research,some honda ecu's are boost capable as is,so just a matter of socketing the s300 in,but in the end its only about 4-5 relatively cheap components that have to be added to the ecu for boost control,so shouldnt cost too much extra to add.
heaps of ppl here use the Eboost2 and have that tuned with the ecu for the high and low boost settings of your choice.
excellent... thanks for the quick replys.... s300 it is then :)
as a comparision Eboost2 is about the 799 mark new so your saving that and thats prolly what the ecu cost :)
s300 cost way more then that lolQuote:
Originally Posted by lookingforboost
There about $800 second hand if your lucky enough to find one
If only the world was free lol.... oh well... i will talk to my tuner and see what he recommends...
Cheers all
Just run S100B like me broQuote:
Originally Posted by Webby_roller
$350+ ECU :thumbsup:
run a neptune =]...im running it in my car it also has that boost option as well...and cheaper then a s300 i think and does the job well..also who u getting to tune ur caR?
I will continue my searching into different ecus and which one is best....
As for tuner.... Im leaning towards APC...
Apart from that i am going to see what the usual honda tuners have to say about my setup when its on.....
crikey luke,who u been talkin too,i got mine for less than $800 brand new + installed as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lukezen27
admittedly it was 3 years ago & i supplied the ecu,but that would only add about $300 at most to todays prices.
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Originally Posted by CRXer
lol Jason
So way more = 1k :)
Brining this back to life... Eventually got my act together and pieced parts together over the space of a year and a half... will finish my exams and post up pics and a bit of a write up of what I did...
WOWQuote:
Originally Posted by Webby_roller
I sold my Turbo EG5 brought a EP3R sold that and got a JAZZ now looking for an EG to start again LMAO
Yeah, I've been playing with bikes alot of this time... plus sports I play arnt cheap... then there's the whole student life thing... not a good way to make money... but it ended up getting done and I couldn't be happier....
So the back story:
Had the integra for a couple years now. It was fun, but after a while I got used to it and bored of it. Had a read around and decided that boost was going to be the best cost effective way to pump some life into the old girl and get that smile back when I take it for a drive.
Slowly accumulated parts over a year or so, and after having knee surgery after a bad Ice hockey incident, I was able to move again and was more then ready to get her built up in all her glory.
This build was budget based. Saying that I spent the money on the items that counted...
Quick run down on parts collected:
Ebay t3/t4 turbo
Ebay Manifold
Precision 39mm wastegate with 6.9psi spring
K/n Air filter
Boost, water temp, oil pressure, Innovate MTX-l wideband
Quad-pod gauge cluster
Ebay oil filter sandwich plate
Ebay braided line
Speedflow fittings
Custom intercooler
Custom piping
Ebay catch can
IPG Engine block breathers
DBA slotted front rotors
Ebay Bolt up oil pan drain
Ebay fuel pressure gauge
Hondata s300
Dual SPAL high flow 12" fans
Ebay half size 3 core radiator
ebay exhaust heat wrap
HKS SSQ with recirc fitting
RC 550cc injectors
OBD1-OBD2 harness
I apologise for pic quality, most are taken with iphone as I was using them for referencing when incase anything went wrong.
Car was built as a DD and still has A/C and power steer
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Day one, reversed into the garage ready for test fitting. Daily ride is parked next to it... The joys of city living...
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The stash.
Test fitting:
Manifold
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Mainfold with dump pipe and turbine housing
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Manifold with wastegate:
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Manifold with turbo:
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Fuel pressure gauge: simple to install and no leaks
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So got to this point and my brother with his crx decided he wanted to sell. He had one of my old project engines with LSD, ITR cams, springs, retainers, work adjustable cam gears. Decided I wanted those parts for this build so it was decided to swap engines over. Thanks to alex and adam, engine change over was done in a day.
engine out of the teg:
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Engine in the crx (now for sale):
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Got the car home and set out getting it installed.
Manifold, wastegate, turbo, dump pipe installed
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Working out oil pressure feed line
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Bolt in oil return: Loctited in and sealed with orings, has not had any leaking issues
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Next up was some stopping help: From this
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To this:
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Valve cover was looking beat up so gave it the once over:
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Next up was gauges, used adapt a circuits and installed into empty rear electric window fuses for power:
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Intercooler test fit and bolted up:
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Off the get the exhaust for the gate done (pepsi bottle catch can was there just for this trip)
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Will have to get a final pick with new catch can installed but thats pretty much the build. Took me 3 weeks of working on it over weekends and some nights to do, which included test fitting multiple times and modifying quite a lot of small items which you never really think about till you do it.
Took it for a tune to RPM performance and dyno up at morayfield. My instructions were wastgate spring boost, daily driver on a bulletproof tune... Picked it up a couple days later:
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Was told this is his idea of a bullet proof tune. If I want more power I am more then welcome to go back and he will lean on the tune a bit for for 220+hp but being my first turbo car, and a student, I never want it to go bang so will wait till I can get some ARP's and go for some more stock engine boosted fun...
To finish, the old girl needed a name, and seeing I got into honda's from the HIGH OCTANE movie series and their turbocharged CRX, it was only fitting...
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And thats pretty much my budget build... Spent less then 5K on parts including ECU which was brand new, and it definitely puts a smile on my face. Has had one outing to willowbank and its shown some flaws in the car. Mainly it needs some real tires now, cheap korean tires and first time in the beast gave me a 1/4 mile of 14.1 @104mph, 60' 2.7ish seconds from memory... In comparison, my NA best quarter was a 15.1 @9xmph.
Just posting this to show that even the poorest of kids can still enjoy some modifying goodness :) and turboing on a budget is doable. I spent good money on ecu and wastegate as I believed these are the most important systems on the car when modified and have so far been nothing but joy from the selection of parts...
Clap clap clap!!!
Wow, nice set up man. Looking great !
More pics of the Monkey!
Great work on the turbo, is that running 12psi?
Interested in your cooling setup, how does the radiator cope plus assuming you have the dual fans setup as a pusher and a puller on either side?
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...S-!!!!!/page23 there is a few pics on that page.Quote:
Originally Posted by mooshie
Its running 7psi, thats the a/f showing on the dyno sheet. Cooling does really well, it has a low temp thermostat in it and I have never had any troubles with the cooling as of yet. I have one fan pulling air through the radiator and one fan pushing air through the A/C condenser.
Lol, thought there was something wrong with the boost curve
PnP at it again :) Was alot of fun working on this thing luke!
Looks good Luke, will have a ride in it one day