that is cheap. Cost alot more in Sydney. I got quoted $850 last time i asked.
Should go for a holiday and get it engineered at the same time
that is cheap. Cost alot more in Sydney. I got quoted $850 last time i asked.
Should go for a holiday and get it engineered at the same time
Probably...he said usually it costs around $300 all up but cos my mod list was massive cost him a bit more time into investigating crap and paper works.
I second this,
My Engineer signed me off with external wastegate, stiff coilies, BOV and aftermarket ECU. He did visual checks all over and noise test. There is this new thing in which engineers have to take pictures of you car and its mods. I guess this will save your ass from "muppet" cop that try to convince themselves that you've changed something and you're deemed for another canary when the setup is perfectly legal.
It was the same as FastFwd, $450 total, $200 at first inspection and $250 when you pick-up the documents. Great guy, drives Prelude and builts kit cars in his workshop so he know what he's talking about -> Terry Southam Engineering Willeton.
Pictures hey.....
I think im going to have to look into that because he didnt take pictures for me. Im seeing him again tomorrow ill talk to him then.
nice work guys. don't count your chickens regarding the cops though. hopefully if you get pulled up again they'll take the report for what it's worth and leave you on your merry way.
Then you hire a lawyer and sue their ass.
They can still yellow you if they're pricks. Since they just need suspicion.
lol. you can't sue a cop for being suspicious. it's sometimes BS but all they gotta do is say your car is suspiciously loud or looks low or they're not sure about a certain mod or the exhaust smells strong etc etc and you end up paying out for another inspection. that's why it pays not to be a smart arse to them (not saying you would be, just a general comment :thumbsup:) even when you do have the paper work to back it.
So...
Friday lunch i went to the engineer and he's given me the final paper work for my complete inspection. Drove straight to the pits 30 mins later and they looked at the paper work, didnt even look at the car and just ripped off the sticker :) :) ENGINEER FTW!!
Sat morning i was bored so i put my rimes back on and lowered it to what i thought my measurements were correct for legal height on my coilovers but after i dropped it it turned out like this... :) :) I had a 4 hour Hill cruise on sunday and i didnt have time to raize it so i drove it like this. Pushing my luck but yeah im not driving it from sunday onward for another 2-3 months. Not working atm just study so yellows pay a huge price on my finances which are usually nill :|
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Mean stance...
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my two b1tches
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>.< looks rice but goes fast! who caresss...!!!
siicccccckk n congrats for getting it all sorted! now u can drive in peace..
I can still get over speed humps like that...my measurements were meant to have the lowest point of the car (my front bumper) to be 110mm (lowest legal being 100mm) but i accidently ended up lowering it to 95mms lowest point. so im going to raize it 15mm in 2-3 weeks when i get some time. But my suspension is soo solid even like how it is never scrapes. 3-4 hours of hill driving on sunday on fairly uneven roads it didnt scrape once.
But yeah i need to keep it legal height so before i drive it next ill be raizing it to its legal point.
Well i got my emissions tests done at EFI Auto and then my engineer viewed it over and signed off on the emissions being better than the legal limit. So its in my engineers certification thats its legal the way it is. Also sent the engineers certification to the Dep of vehicle and transport and they also signed off on all the things the engineer have and placed my modification on the database so if a cop brings my car up on there incar it will have a modifications section they can read with all of the stuff in my engineers report.
Cant be 100% sure on that but my engineer has been contracting for the perth dep vehicle and reg for 20 years he said and he told me that so im sure its valid.
he also said im240 tests are not valid in WA so even if you get one it will only be a reference atm and not something that can be certified. But my engineer said they are in the process of bringing the im240 in atm and in the next 1-2 years it will be manditory in vehicles like ours.
Yeah same...My engineers report has around 80 dot points of mods in which are detailed sections of materials used, regulations, legal requirements, functionality and durability etc etc and its roughly 50 pages long. Then i have 38 Pit receipts (for 15 yellows) with copies of prior issues on the car for reference to issues i have fixed. So if they mention something i can say "NO NO i got a yellow for this by a cop in the past but as u can see the pits have passed it as legal" cos cops have no idea whats legal and whats not. Ive been given around 8 out of the 15 yellows based on something on my car thats actually legal but then driven it over the pits and the inspector says "what the hell is this cop going on about" I also have 5 pages of permits from the actual pits and other receipts like Tint-a-cars Legal pages for darkest legal tint and my exhaust has been tested at 89.93db by my exhaust shop and was printed a document to show that plus other crap all in a ring binder which i stash under my seat. Next thing i will do is get dated photo's so cops dont say crap like "ahhh you probably just changed this after the permit"
U know what im thinking of making next....my engineer made one, its a 1m poll with a 100mm high chunk of MDF attached to it with glued on ruler to the side showing 100mm exactly. so u can slide it under the car and make sure it doesnt hit anything showing exactly that its 100mm or over. Cos I've measured mine up in the past and this yellow i just got recently the cop was like "nah mate its to low" and i said to the cop "the lowest point of the car is my front bumper and its 120mm, if you can tell me its not otherwise then give me a yellow" he just snobbed me off and said "he can see its not 100mm's" so next time ill have the rod with the ruler and just say "here ya go buddy, be my guest and check, ive made it easy for you"
no one would think by looking at those pictures my car is 5mm of the legal limit. They would say your bullsh1tting me, so i dont blame cops for thinking the same cos my car does look very low even when its completely legal"
anyways im rambling
Your rambling is very informative. Cheers.
LOL good work. Looks like the next cop pulling you over is in for it.
Usually i show them all the evidence i can that my car is 100% legal. 80% of the time they say "hey no worries looks like your doing the right thing" and let me go. But its those cops that have already made there mind up that there giving you a yellow before they even hop out of there car. Those are the cops that get me going. I show them everything, i reason with them but they just find anything like "muffler not mounted firmly" pffft i got a red sticker for that one when my muffler is solid. They just couldnt find anything so they just gave me a sticker for the hell of it.
i got a defect letter for oil leak, which even the mechanic couldn't find.
Took it up with the local police station, as the ticket didn't even have a date to get it fixed.
Didn't specifiy how to clear the defect, either a pink or blue slip.
They wouldn't even tell me the officer's name.
Seriously the cops all kinda just pretended it wasn't anything wrong. They certainly cover for themselves.
I took it up with the police ombudsman and even then they didn't do anything.
I ended up paying the $88 fine as it was easier than showing up to court, which would have been werid cos my friend's dad was the local magistrate and i had told him about the situation.
This was back when i was only 18, didn't know what to do at the time.
It situations like those that make people disrespect the cops
Exactly, when a cop wants to give me a yellow but then i show him all the goods and hes walks away saying "well son it looks like your doing the right thing so im not going to give you a yellow" i respect that. My car looks 100% yellow worthy but its just unknown to them that its actually 100% legal until i show them the paper work. But like i said before some cops have already made up there mind that they are going to give you a yellow no matter what before they even get out of there car and at that point with those types of cops theres nothing you can say or do to make him think otherwise. Even if you show him ever legal permit under the sun they will find a reason to give you a yellow even if its for the most stupid reason like "your window's dirty" one of my mates here in perth 2-3 years ago got a yellow for that, true story. And really when a cop whats to be an @ss theres no way around it. You can get his badge number, take him to court but in the end you still have the yellow on your car and its game over from there and they know it.
May I ask if your permit is temporary with exp date or permanent? and which pit?
My process was:
1. Submit vehicle modification declaring form to Welshpool (This is the stage where they see if you require engineer signatory or not)
2. Since that didn't go through I went to see an engineer to get his signatory
3. Engineer report was then submitted back to Welshpool Department
4. Welshpool department gave me the green lights and to approach a pit to remove yellow off
5. Went to pits, got the yellow off HOWEVER since IM240 was implemented back then I was given a temporary permit in which I have to do the emission testing before I can get permanent permit
So in total, I have an engineer signatory and permit from pits. Cops only look at pits paper coz engineer report means jack shit to them