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I have some various editions of Motor and Wheels magazines, and not all of them have this figure for the jazz, there are definately some figures saying jazz's only do 17's.
I've seen a lot of vagueness in the quarter mile times in the summary sections of these mags. Which is where i'm guessing colundra was looking. The numbers found there are just guides as they are done under a wide range of conditions, fuel load, temperature and degrees of uphill/downhill. They can't take every car to the dragstrip to test it.
Wheels article i posted is a more reliable source than these summary sections as it was done under proper testing conditions at the track.
oh comon typeG... this fight is over ok? haha
ur euro must be fxxking fast :thumbsup: :DQuote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
good! :)
it's not my fault that Wheels stuffed up is it? bluevti, it's so stupid of you to not even quote which month's issue of Wheels you got that figure from. Is it so hard to say, look in the comparison of small hatches in Wheels July 2004 (whatever the month is)?
TypeG, give it up. I still don't understand what you are saying so don't bother with your personal insults.
I guess that means Jus-10's time isn't all that fast. A stock VTi did 16.6 sec and modified Jazz only managed to equal that time. Not impressive at all.
EDIT: Just realised why the time I quoted is different from bluevti's. Wheels quote VTi as doing 16.6sec over quartermile and 17.5 for VTi-S.
How weird. As if the weight difference between them is gonna make such a big difference.
Yeah. It is a good thing unlike you who didn't offer ANY fact at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
Wanna know why the figure is different? Because I was only looking at VTi-S manual time and bluevti was looking at VTi time.
Once again, shut your mouth if you are not going to offer ANY fact at all. You haven't contributed anything concrete.
Anyway, I'm done wasting my time with this.
>bluevti, it's so stupid of you to not even quote which month's issue of Wheels you got that figure from
Errm.. I did. August. Or are you saying I should have said which edition when I first mentioned it ? Again, I did, please see page 3 of this thread:
http://www.ozhonda.com/forum/showthr...1&page=3&pp=12
So just chill dude.
vti-s is alot heavier than vti...thats why it makes that much of a differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
2nd gear reaches to 91km/h? at 6300rpm my jazz is on around 83 km/hQuote:
Originally Posted by bluevti
Hmm interesting point.. I'll see what mine does. If I could be bothered i'd do the maths but its easier to go for a drive :P
Just tested in my Vti, 6300 in 2nd is ~91 km/h. In 2nd it does around 30km/h for every 2,000rpms...
*IF and its a big IF* you could rev it to 8,000rpms you'd be doing around 120km/h.
I think it can just hit 100km/h (or just under) in 2nd before hitting rev limiter. The rev limiter took me a little by suprise so in the excitement didnt get to see if it occurred at 100 or just under :P
well as jus_10 said... wheels have pros to do the test... so it's hard for us to tell whetehre the result can be achieved or not if we r not a pro driver..
y dun u ask clearly before u shout in this post? in the topic and the posts, we never state the time we are talking about is a for vtis or a vti at all and you yrself look at the time for a vtis. is that our fault then?Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
i do contribute some facts by keep telling you that a jazz has the protential itself to be a performance car like a Euro
i will never give up on explaining how a jazz can turn out a performance car if you still dun believe it in all aspects.
also Jus10 's time is quite impressive as he is not a professional racer or sth but just a drive like u.
most car can b mod into a performance car.... only thing different car has got different handling capability... as for jazz, so far handling is very good..... i m sure that the car can handle well even after the car is boosted up... so many after market performance part for jazz... in fact i think also more than a euro...
as i know..yesQuote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
u know why.....:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by spoon fit
i knew, no need to tell meQuote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
tell "HIM" la :D
Zimp13, this one also ???Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
http://img78.photobucket.com/albums/...stcards/86.jpg
Coladuna, quickness can be defined in different ways. While the jazz isn't that fast down the quarter mile, it has alot of potential for excellent handling due its chassis design.
I think you should bring your car down to Wakefield before laying down any more smack :D
- Andrew
I can't be bothered to look back at all the previous posts but I'm sure I constantly mentioned that I was quoting VTi-S figure. It was bluevti who didn't mention which figure he was quoting. So get the facts right. It is your fault. Oh hang on. It doesn't have anything to do with you because you didn't offer any facts at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
You call that a fact? You don't really know what the definition of FACT is do you?
and what do you base that on? Not another biased opinion without any facts to back it up with please. Comments like "I think such and such" can only be speculation and doesn't amount to much. From what I've read in reviews, Euro's handling is very good and neutral. Jazz has a much higher centre of gravity and from my personal experience of driving it, the steering had no feel and it was too light, which I'm sure I've read in certain reviews of Jazzes as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
Here's some food for thought. A quick review search for Jazz in Carpoint reveals...
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The turning circle may be tight, but the steering is vague, and there is fair degree of roll in the body when cornering at more than sedate speeds.
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It's okay over smooth roads but hit even a moderate rut or pothole and the Jazz jolts and jumps with harsh reverberations.
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The steering is dead, completely devoid of feel, and the base model's 14in tyres are downright atrocious.
Searching for Euro reviews reveal the following...Quote:
So, putting this all into perspective, the Jazz remains an alluring prospect. The sub-standard driving dynamics take the shine off what would otherwise have been an excellent overall package
Facts anyone? From reading those reviews, I don't see how you came up with the idea that Jazz's hadling is superior, unless it was a biased personal opinion.Quote:
The Accord is all serenity by contrast, with a composure that's not only at home with hard driving, but virtually incites it. It too has a grippy front end, but matches that with near-perfect body control, communicative steering, and an extremely absorbent ride on everything from sharp ripples to longer amplitude humps, and isn't upset by any mid-corner irregularities.
Besides, it's silly to compare Euro against Jazz isn't it? So let's not.
Facts anyone?
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Originally Posted by coladuna
jazz handling is superior???????????????? did i mention that??????????
facts????????? gimme one fact that euro handles better than jazz....... biased opinion????????? how u justify biased opinion????????????? wat if i say ur opinion is biased??????????? ur english may b good, but learn how to convey messages without offending other people ok???? good english is pretty much useless without the brain to think......
as i am of a better class than u, i m not gonna argue with u... i m busy, not making money but spending money...... well i m sure that u will.... keep going!!!!!!!!! dun stop........ read again wat u have posted... typeG may have started the arguments with U, but he only argued and pointed all his thought at U... but U???? U dun just insult typeG but also many other people... wat a BRAIN !!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by ahcash
Cash... be careful man.... someone will ask " where's the fact or this is just ur biased opinion????"..... so better dig all the facts man... hahahahha....
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA...
(my english is bad, i only can type HAHA)
Whoa calm down tiger. No need to get all agitated. But you gotta admit your post was a little vague. So when you said "in fact i think also more than a euro", what are you referring to? Handling or the car's ability to handle extra power? Next time, try and not make it so vague. Using so many fullstops doesn't help either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
You think that was offending? I was basically saying that what you are saying is your personal opinion. How is that offending? Absolutely clueless. Maybe you are offended because you didn't read or understand my post properly.
And how did I offend other people? If you got insulted over comments that wasn't even directed to you, it's not my fault. Yeah, what a brain really.
As for your other comments, I have no clue what you are on about. la :D
And there's something wrong with asking for factual evidence? What's the point if everyone just blurts out their personal opinon? Most will just say their car is better anyway and it ends up being pointless, just like when two little kids argue with each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
I'm glad someone brough that up - I personally think that carpoint review is a load of crap. Perhaps the tyres on the test car were underinflated? (Seems to be a common thing with many jazzes I see in the city..) The stock tyres and power steering configuration on the jazz contribute to its very light steering feel, but that doesn't have to mean it handles badly.
Vehicle weight(kg)Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
Honda Jazz: 1,025
Accord Euro Luxury: 1,415
I like my cars light and nimble, thanks ;)
Your point being? Is there a point to comparing a medium size sedan to a small hatchback? You don't have to be a genius to figure out which will be heavier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andys
My friend's old car, Daihatsu Charade was less than a tonne. Do I get any award? :wave:
Dude do you come on here just to argue with everyone? Thats the stuff of 14 year old computer nerds man. not cool.Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
That's arguing? Am I seeing double standard here? So why did you reply when I said you didn't quote which magazine you were quoting from? Or are you a 14 yr old computer nerd? I did mention I was talking about VTi-S and TypeG thought otherwise so I cleared that up. That's not arguing. That's called clarification. *sigh*Quote:
Originally Posted by bluevti
You dont deserve a response.
quote of the month :DQuote:
Originally Posted by Zimp13
he always keep saying he has no clue on what we talk about and we dun read or understand what his posts mean BUT he can still BS a lot hereQuote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
nice work :cool:
guys, there is not much point for this to go on, just call it an end.
this will just ruin jus10's thread if it keeps going on like this.
not really
a good chance to let ppl know Jazz is not THAT slow
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Originally Posted by STTICH
I agree guys keep to the topic, this whole thing getting in the way of a good thread.
Will you ***cking give it a rest? If I were to say all I want about you on this thread, this thread would be 10000 pages long.Quote:
Originally Posted by TypeG
If you wanna keep going on and on about this, you can do it by yourself.
If you are really desperate to say something, use PM as I'm sick and tired of doing this with you on this thread.
Geez. What ***cking child.
quote of the month
Sorry what are you trying to say there? Really? :confused:Quote:
he always keep saying he has no clue on what we talk about and we dun read or understand what his posts mean BUT he can still BS a lot here
Here we go again. Back to square one.Quote:
a good chance to let ppl know Jazz is not THAT slow
Everytime I read this... I laugh my fxxking @ss out..
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Just close the friggin thread someone..
i agree with you ahcash!
i just laugh so hard everytime i read this thread as well :D
oh well, i'm glad we have ausfit........
i wonder where he came from?
i really want to know as i want to see if all the people from his country are all similar to him with GOOD manner and with GOOD english
at the end of the day it's still a 16 second pass dude lol
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anyone interest in getting a brand new honda jazz vtis manual... ??
hahahahahahahahahaa
nah.. joking.. just feel like messing around in this thread
And that just about does it me thinks!