My first Honda - ED3

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Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ

i had the same problem on my prelude, which had the EGR.

while it did fix it temporarily, it came back within a week or two

have you cleaned the throttle body and what not as well?

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The intake is clean but i didn't clean the throttle body, i'll try that before buying a pump, thanks!

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Originally Posted by Renaissance_x

Nothing, they are a fun little engine, it's just people have to compare them to b series for some reason.

compared to b series they aren't too powerful..

But a d series can be a fun little engine none the less, especially on a twisty enough road... On a twisty road any car that handles well will be fun.

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ok, yeah, you can't really compare a SOCH to a DOCH vtech. But it's a surprising little engine for what it is. There's no real acceleration down the straights but I really loose 'em in the corners. lolol

here's pic of the distrib

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Can you chuck us a photo of the fuel injector rail
usually the EGR port has a runner that runs along the top of it
I know some Honda engines here did NOT come with an EGR port like their USA counterparts

If you're stuttering at 2k rpm it's probably your o2 sensor playing up (Under certain light load the ecu takes info from the MAP & o2 sensor)
Does it bog at WoT (wide open throttle)?
Had a similar problem with my old accord, were it would hesitate at that rpm - i replaced my IACV (cleaning did not work) and reset my base idle, after bleeding my coolant and checking vaccuum leaks
Also hows ignition timing?
Any CEL's?

I just had a google, D16Z does not come with EGR

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Originally Posted by Jasemas

Can you chuck us a photo of the fuel injector rail
usually the EGR port has a runner that runs along the top of it
I know some Honda engines here did NOT come with an EGR port like their USA counterparts

If you're stuttering at 2k rpm it's probably your o2 sensor playing up (Under certain light load the ecu takes info from the MAP & o2 sensor)
Does it bog at WoT (wide open throttle)?
Had a similar problem with my old accord, were it would hesitate at that rpm - i replaced my IACV (cleaning did not work) and reset my base idle, after bleeding my coolant and checking vaccuum leaks
Also hows ignition timing?
Any CEL's?

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If you need more photos i can take them :)

WOT is always fine.
Checked the radiator and there's no bubbles so it doesn't look like there's a cracked head.
The ignition timing might be a cause. i went to do it today but can't do it because i can't find the little plug thing to cross-wire before a looking at the timing.
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i just cleaned the intake manifold. man, it had nice coat of black crud.

I might take if for a drive later to mcD's and see how that goes.

but i do have another question....
there was this hose that goes from the top left corner of the valve cover into the intake. i suspect this is the case if the crud.
Does anyone know if i can remove it? can i just add on of those valve cover external oil filters??
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stupid pipe spewing shit in my shit.

Jimper wire

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Originally Posted by SpikeED3

i just cleaned the intake manifold. man, it had nice coat of black crud, the inside was dirtier than my wife!!

I might take if for a drive later to mcD's and see how that goes.

but i do have another question....
there was this hose that goes from the top left corner of the valve cover into the intake. i suspect this is the case if the crud.
Does anyone know if i can remove it? can i just add on of those valve cover external oil filters??
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you can, but its illegal

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Originally Posted by Vvvtec

Jimper wire

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yup

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Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ

you can, but its illegal

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Maybe i can split it, add a hidden filter and block off the part that goes to the intake,..... anyway i'm more concerned about my current issue.

Interested in knowing how she got a fuel pump in there. If all ed3s are carb, was the tank replaced from the concerto or pump added to the existing tank?

Nice car, good to see some of these still knocking around.

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Originally Posted by k20paddy

Interested in knowing how she got a fuel pump in there. If all ed3s are carb, was the tank replaced from the concerto or pump added to the existing tank?

Nice car, good to see some of these still knocking around.

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Concerto tank is pretty much identical, i wouldnt be surprised if it's also using the concerto fuel lines.

That jumper plug you'll be able to find around the passenger side of the firewall, it's got a yellow rubber plug on it.

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Originally Posted by k20paddy

Interested in knowing how she got a fuel pump in there. If all ed3s are carb, was the tank replaced from the concerto or pump added to the existing tank?

Nice car, good to see some of these still knocking around.

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Originally Posted by grifty

Concerto tank is pretty much identical, i wouldnt be surprised if it's also using the concerto fuel lines.

That jumper plug you'll be able to find around the passenger side of the firewall, it's got a yellow rubber plug on it.

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I don't know about the fuel system, I'll have to ask or take a look. still can't find that little yellow sucker...


Yeah i haven't seen many of these around.

OK I've learnt some new things about this bogging down at 2,000

Exhibit A

I have 2 of these problems.
"difficult to start cold engine" & "poor performance - loss of power"
I know the injectors are good, I've already changed the fuel filter for a new one so the only other thing that is mentioned in both of these issues is the fuel pump. That being said, i've disconnected the fuel line from the fuel filter and it seems to prime ok...
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Exhibit B

The lag at 2,000 seems to happen more when the engine bay is hot. so it happens more on hot days, and it happens more after running the engine hard. This leads me to believe it might be an O2 sensor failing as it gets hot.





But no, there is no CEL on.

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Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ

I just had a google, D16Z does not come with EGR

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Cheers! I thought I was going nuts!

maybe its heat soak lol

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Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ

maybe its heat soak lol

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lololol yeah it's such a monster :cool:


btw thanks everyone for the help. I really appreciate it.

post pics of the wiring around the passenger side of the firewall, i might be able to identify it.

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If you need pics of anything else i can take them

I think this is it

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Brown and green are the colours for the diagnostic connector so it looks to be it.

I thought it was that too. In the manual it says it's a rubber cap. but this is a connector connected to a sensor in the A/C. But i don't know, maybe it is it.

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i'll double check on my car, that looks like a P/S pressure switch.

yup, you're right.

Finding this is more challenging than I thought it would be....

maybe I should make a video of the whole engine bay??

Well here's a video. I just can't figure it out. is there any other way i can make the same cross connection so i can do the timing?

https://youtu.be/ovNXXALNQuY

How many km's are on that engine? Has the dizzy ever been opened up? It's an external coil from what I can tell.

No its definitely not external coil.

Could be time to rebuild the Dizzy

OK yeah I could take a look at the dizzy after I did the ignition timing. but I'm still figuring out how to do it so I'll clean the dizzy and see if it helps.

Yes it does have an external coil.

Finally got the exhaust tips sorted. 2inch inlet, 2 x 2.25inch outlet.
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Yeeeeeeeiiiiiiiìiiiiiiiiiii!!!

I like what you are doing with this - I've always had a soft spot for ED/EF/EE Civics. Re the piping, if it's blowing a lot of oil into your intake, there's an internal leak somewhere, possibly valve stem seals which is over-pressurising the valve cover. It's normal to blow a little, hence the system. Best bet is to not vent it to the atmosphere as it's illegal but to plumb it into an oil catch can that can be tucked hidden out of the way (and then vented).

WHo put the type r sticker on

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Originally Posted by u mad?

WHo put the type r sticker on

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Honda of course

Ed type r

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Originally Posted by RenzokukenJ

Honda of course

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fuk im an idiot

how could i not have known that

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Originally Posted by SHOGUNOVDDRK

Yeeeeeeeiiiiiiiìiiiiiiiiiii!!!

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Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!:cool:

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Originally Posted by Setanta

I like what you are doing with this - I've always had a soft spot for ED/EF/EE Civics. Re the piping, if it's blowing a lot of oil into your intake, there's an internal leak somewhere, possibly valve stem seals which is over-pressurising the valve cover. It's normal to blow a little, hence the system. Best bet is to not vent it to the atmosphere as it's illegal but to plumb it into an oil catch can that can be tucked hidden out of the way (and then vented).

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Thanks :) that's good advice. it doesn't seem to be venting excessively, I think the build up is just the result of years of use. I'm looking into the oil catch can now. any brand recommendations?

I like your car however I don't like your type R sticker.

No offence.

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Originally Posted by Renaissance_x

I like your car however I don't like your type R sticker.

No offence.

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None taken :)

It was already on there when I got it. I guess it's some sort of joke. It'll be coming off when I to the body and paint anyway, I was originally thinking of putting an official type R civic badge on once the new paint gets done.... but my taste in humour has changed a bit since then.... so I'm not so sure.

Mate keep it clean. NO STICKERS!

I would even shave and fill in badge holes so no badges.

Just that clean look.

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Originally Posted by amant02

Mate keep it clean. NO STICKERS!

I would even shave and fill in badge holes so no badges.

Just that clean look.

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Hmmmmmm that would be cool if I changed the colour to black or something. colour change is a big job though. I think when I do respray I'll keep it original and stick with the Honda silver...... I think

Just installed a K&N air filter.

Anyone know the best oil catch can set-up for a D16? There's a lot of random info out there.

check out go-autoworks, they make good kits but not cheap.

Thanks i'll check them out :thumbsup: