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there could be a chance that the seat belt tensioners could be affected, but there are two cables, i think one is for the seat belt warning and the other is for the either the side airbag or seat belt tensioner or both. I had an older car with seat belt warning but no side airbags/seat belt tensioners and i disabled the warning by unplugging the cable in the same way.
at least the Euro chime is 'smart'. In my bro's Mazda 3, things dumbass, even if your driving slow, in park or reverse, it still chimes at you. youd think they'd program it to stop chiming once you put it into park !
and then theres chime for lights left on and key in ignition. god its annoying driving the mazda, so many dam chimes !
new secret....i found this out ages ago but i forgot to post...
dunno about pre 2006 models since mine is an 06...
the euro has this horn alarm thingo....
if any locks are opened without the remote after u've locked the car....the alarm goes off (lights flash and the horn beeps)...
to try, put your window down so u can grab the lock on the door.....close all doors and lock ur car as normal....wait about 30secs, then yank up the lock on the door....the alarm goes off...
All Euros have that :)Quote:
Originally Posted by corn_flakes
My latest discovery is that if the car is on jacks and when you start the engine, the car won't stop buzzing you with the same seat belt warning chime!
hahaha.. what the hell were you doing?
where on earth is the CD divider thing?
Its been asked three times and no-one answers ??
Please?
it has been answered, probably u've jsut skimmed read through the pages ;)
in the middle compartment just beneath ur stereo, if you open it up and look inside it, u'll see at the top a divider towards the left. it can fit about 4 cd cases to the left side of it or heaps more from the right. i don't use it to hold cd's though. I use it to hold a small square tissue box :D
Just found out last night
try to press the break a few times when the engine is off
the break will lock itself :)
The brake will lock itself!?
lol dude we've answered 3 times already.Quote:
Originally Posted by zuiko
In RED is the CD Compartment. Open the CD Compartment Door, and in BLUE is the small black notch in the top of the compartment that seperates a few CD's.
http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/6245/cd4kn.jpg
Yea? Does the brake physically lock (like a second handbrake)? Or just the pedal?Quote:
Originally Posted by ngupil
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Originally Posted by EuroDude
LOL. Is that all it is? I thought this was something like a hidden panel or compartment I'd never seen yet!
I didn't know about the drink holder segment thing till I read this thread!!
I was going mad about this saying how stupid it was not to have it at the front! I was putting my drinks into the BACK SEAT middle section and reaching back for it on my morning drives!
Now I realise it was there all along but I had just never seen it or read the manual!!
The only major gripe I have about the Euro is the lack of a Valet key.
I really need this feature.
What I do is lock the boot release from inside- the lever can be locked, and I've turned off the switch allowing the button at the license plates to work.
I sometimes carry expensive audio equipment and someone at a set of lights could potentially open your boot up and steal things. SO that feature is OFF for me.
The lever is important to lock because when the car is parked someone could gain access to the boot otherwise; if they smash windows.
Otherwise the boot setup is good. Relatively secure compared to other cars where you can bring the rear seats down from the inside of the car etc. You can only release the rear seats from the boot which is an excellent design feature!
But a valet key... that would be the ultimate for this luxury machine :)
The pedal will be locked, ie. you cant press it anymore
the pedal will be unlocked when you turn on the engine
interesting find?? hehehe
Hmm, maybe they thought at the $35000-44000 price bracket, that the Euro didn't need a valet key...The Legend will have one though.
Yeah but Legend = $$$Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
It's gonna have a tough time against the Lexus twins.
I wonder how much they'll bring it in at? $80-90 000 base model and $110-120 k for the top of the line?
I think $80-90k and there will only be one model with the full on leather and woodgrain (I need to read that Legend article again).
What Lexus twins? I hope you are not thinking of the IS250 and GS300. Firstly, the IS250 is too small to be compared as a Legend rival. Heck, it's even smaller than the Accord Euro. The GS300 on the other hand already costs $95,200 and the GS300 Lux seems too good to be true. An extra $17,000 just for 14 speaker audio (I can't find the difference between the 2 models, even the wheels are the same)?!?!?!?!?!
GS300's 183kW engine makes 61kW/litre using DOHC, direct injection and variable valve. Legend's 221kW engine makes 63kW/litre using SOHC VTEC only on the intake side! Give me the Legend.
I'm not pro-Honda. If it was between the IS250 and the Accord Euro, I would go for the IS250 if the rear seats could accomodate someone of my size (and heck I am thin!)
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Originally Posted by ngupil
It's not that the brakes are locked, it's just that the power assist to the brakes are shut off when the engine is off, you can try that on any car, it will become almost impossible to press after a few pumps on the pedal....
ditto, was just gonna post that...Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroAccord13
i've done it many times....like when i had to move my car along the driveway for like 1-2metres...and i couldn't be wanked starting the engine....
owwww ....
sorry for my noobness lol
LOL @ putting drinks in back seatQuote:
Originally Posted by zuiko
HAHAHA!!
i had my dealership guy show me what everything did before i drove off, but seems he missed a few things.
The next car I have, I really want to have one that checks the tyre pressures automatically!
THAT - is a big safety feature. Someone should write that to Honda :)
Would you like a back massager and mini fridge built in as well? :D j/k
Yeah a tyre pressure reading would be very handy, but sounds a bit expensive to implement.
You can get those wireless tyre pressure sensors off ebay if you really want that. They mount to the rim so you need to remount your tyres and balance but otherwise no big deal.
I can't vouch for this item or seller - just making the point that they are available for not much cash
link
Sounds like a good alternative option. I think some of the Holden HSVs have the tyre pressure detector built in!
Hey... mini Fridge should be optional IMO :P
Just the assurance of warranty coverage for factory parts that's all. And perfect fitment.
Having said that the Euro Accord has a lot of features that other cars don't think about at all already.
True, like side mirror indicators :)
Only some Mercs, some BMW's, Mazda 6, '06 Jazz, and current Liberty have them ;)
But I bet every car and its dog will have them in a few years...
Speaking of side mirror indicators.
I 'think' I remember Merc Benz brought them out first, as they always do regarding safety features. And I remember anticipating when BMW will also have them... but it took them a few years, probably because they didn't want to be looked at as copy-cats of Mercs! But Liberty was the first Jap car I remember that copied the idea, and then there's the Euro Accord!
Sorry if the mod thinks its off topic a bit.
Interesting bits? the VSA button lol
allows for ' a more spirited drive' :D
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Originally Posted by Omotesando
safety??
hmm, the bad thing i find with the indicators on the mirrors is that sometimes if u indicate and there;s like another car on ur side, they can't see u indicating!!! they can only see u indicating if they aint in one of ur blind spots...
and i'm not talking in regards to like lane changing, of course everyone checks their blind spot when doing so...right? ;)
but what about those times when u're trying to merge when one of the lanes end and u wanna indicate to let the mofo next to u know?
or when u're on a 3 lane road, and u wanna change lanes into the middle lane, and so does another mofo in the 'other' outside lane?
just my 2 cents....
I find it more effective than normal indicators - Ive noticed ppl let me in more often when merging since its brighter and in-your-face so to speak.
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Originally Posted by corn_flakes
Yes it is a Safety feature.
Because you now have 6 indicators on your car instead of 4.
Honestly, I don't know why you say people can't see you on say a merge lane.
If they can't see you with 6 indicators, then there is much less chance of them seeing you when you drive any other cars with 4 indicators.
To me, it sounds like you didn't actually know there are 6 indicators on your car, but you thought the fronts were moved to the side mirrors? :o
I think he's right, if the other car already past your rear end, he won't really see the indicator because there is no indicator lamp on the side of the body. At night the other car should see the mirror indicator, but probably not in the daylight. But then of course, you can't expect him/her to give way to you since it's already past the rear of your car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omotesando
Yeah thats true. Doesnt the Acura TSX have indicators in the corners, where our parking lights are?
*rolleyes*
i'm talking about how the euro has their indicators on the mirrors INSTEAD of on the fender area near the wheel arch like most normal cars.......i'm pretty sure almost all cars have 6 indicators on them!!!
and when i'm talking about changing lanes, etc, i'm not talking about at normal speeds.....obviously u won't be changing lanes when there's a car in ur blind spot.....i'm talking about those times when traffic is more slow (eg bumper to bumper), and alot of lane changing etc is needed....
Omotesando, it is required by law for all cars to have 2 rear indicators, two front indicators and 2 side indicators.
as corn_flakes pointed out he was refering to the location change of the indicators to a regular car (no cars come with only 4 indicators).
The "side indicators" on the euro's mirrors are clearly biased toward facing foward and have little light emitted to the side. The problem is made worse from a rear quarter view in which a car in another lane can't see your rear indicator or your front indicator and has to rely on a small amber spec just visable on the mirror (where they may not even be looking). During the day reflections from the side-view mirror may also stop people from being able to see the side indicator.
Obviously it's ADR approved though.. and I've never really had any problems with people not seeing me indicate - but i guess it remains a slight possibility.
back on topic... the display of our CD player is black with white characters... in japan (and possibly europe) it's the greeny brown LCD colour with black characters. Strange how honda bothered making such small changes.
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Originally Posted by Omotesando
To me it sounds like you didn't know it's been in the ADR's for around 20 years that you have to have side indicator lights (giving a total of 6 on the car). It's only that they have been moved from just behind the front wheel on the front panel up onto the side mirror.
I too find that cars next to you from your front door back don't see you ( I notice it when I'm next to other Euro drivers too) and I think it's also because the front indicator it pointed purely to the front and not seen from the side. Alot of cars have the front indicator at the front corner and that also aids in seeing them indicating.
**Chris F types quicker than me and gave a similiar explanation above ;) **
haha at least that's confirmation that neither of us are speaking out of our a**
lol thank you for interpreting what i was trying to explain...
it's not such a big problem....but like u said it can still possibly be one....
i'm not complaining about the indicators being on the side mirror...i quite like the style...
but i think it serves more of a cosmetic purpose (to add to the elegance of the euro), than a practical one.....i mean, the indicators are mainly seen by ppl viewing it from the front of the car - and we already have 2 front indicators...
just my two cents...
Couple more bits I noticed:
The fuel door has a notch to hold the fuel cap when filling, although most of you already knew that.
Also there is a spring loaded handle above the passenger door, just noticed it yesterday rofl after 7 weeks.
ROFL!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
hehe, u're a funny one...
i gotta admit i love the window features...i was so used to my old car that whenever i park somewhere, i put the windows up b4 i shut off the engine....
My Civic used to roll all the windows up when the alarm is activated, so the Euro's system is a step back for me.
Why Honda didnt make it so a double-lock press winds the windows up, is beyond me :(
Still waiting for a simple mod to make them wind up automatically (without having to install an aftermarket alarm).
yeh but it costs quite a bit for that alarm system to have ur windows go up
and yes i agree about the double-lock press thingy on the remote...would make it much easier!
You wouldn't think it'd that hard for Honda to build it into the next model, I mean double unlock makes them go down, why not double lock to make them go up. I know I'd use it.
From my understanding its very easy to implement, the reason they dont add it is due to liability concerns - limbs stuck in windows, todlers/pets suffocating in a locked up car on a hot day.
But all the European cars do it...BMW, MB, VW to name a few that I know do it for a fact...
Must be a Japanese standards thing or something :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by kleung
Europe's probably more concerned about snow than they are about 35+ days...Quote:
Originally Posted by kleung
Plus Japanese tend to leave there kids in cars at casino's :) Europeans take them in and get drunk as well :)
(In case no1 can tell I'm having a joke).
let me continue with that joke...
i'm asian and i don't gamble...i'm a MINORITY....lol
i was going to get a 2nd series monaro, how asian is that? hahaha...but with petrol prices these days, i got the euro.....
I think someone mentioned the 'limbs' for remote window - that sounds the best explanation :) I mean, if u walk close enough to ur car, so u have to put your keys in to close all four windows - it is safer for the passengers limbs perhaps? BMW, VW and MB probably didn't thought of this to as much detail as HONDA. It doesn't make them superior then.. :P
If u think about how Honda have made it 'easy' to put down the windows, and that it is still 'relatively easy' to close them using the key in the lock, it means they definitely have considered it? Don't people think?
Yep thats my theory but they should give us responsible people the option to enable this feature :(
Ive had auto-up windows on my Civic for years, not one incident. Plus the windows arent strong enough to hurt anyone - you may get a small bruse at worst. The Windows have an pressure detection sensor in the window/motor anyway.
Which makes me think its the toddler-locked-in-on-a-hot-day theory.
yeh but if u read in the manual, it says that if something is stuck between the windows whilst going up, the window will STOP...
not like old cars where it'll just crush someone's arm...=)
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Originally Posted by corn_flakes
Yes that's right, that is already be a feature in all new cars these days with electric windows. Nothing that new, but unfortunately it still hurts when it happens. Being a silly, experimenting person, I deliberately tried it and before it stops it is enough to get a bruise on your arm, let alone your FINGERS!
I would've thought Honda should be given credit for insisting on their own way! But anyway, I agree we should be given an option for it!
just want to note that this works only on driver's window, the other 3 will keep going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Omotesando
Thats crazy, it should be all the windows. The driver has very little chance getting limbs caught because thou is too busy controlling the switch/remote.Quote:
Originally Posted by euro77
Its more likely that a kiddy in the back is going to stick their arm out and get caught, or a dog get its noz stuck.
still have your arm? :DQuote:
Originally Posted by euro77
yeah, someone else tested it, not me :DQuote:
Originally Posted by petsfact
I'll test the other 3 windows tomorrow :)
Using someone else's arm mind u - and report back!
rofl use an empty plastic coke bottle with the lid on, if ur affraid. :)
LOL i was just gonna say the same thing...!Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
use something to test it yo fools...it's not limited to human flesh and bones! lmao!
hehe yeah at least wrap your friends arm in a towel or something ;)
Just use the neighbours cat :)
Did you know what when on cruise control and the car is braking the rear brake light doesnt come on.
Interesting, pretty dangerous actually.
I agree, it is dangerous especially when slowing the car via the - steering wheel button.
Does CC actually use the brakes? It seems like Cruise Control doesn't use the brakes to slow down, it uses engine braking by shutting off the injectors instead.
^^ You're rightCC doesn't use brakes. Just shuts the off the injectors.
The car is physically slowing down rapidly, im sure the brakes are being applied.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
As far I as I am aware, the Euro's sold in Oz dont have adaptive cruise control, so the car does not apply the brakes with cruise control set. The engine compression is high, so when the cc releases the throttle and the injectors are off the car will feel like there is a light brake application going on, but it doesnt actually do that. Besides, when you're running on cc the car is maintaining a constant set speed and not declerating, so there is no need for the brake lights to come on anyways. As the car isnt actually slowing down then where is the danger?
If the car is slowing down rapidly then cruise control must have cancelled. The whole point to cruise control is to maintain a constant speed, not to slow down the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrarista
Holding the '-' button when in cruise control is no different to lifting your foot off the throttle. The brake lights dont come on just because you release the throttle, so obviously they shouldnt come on when the '-' button is pressed either.
I'm 99% sure the Euro's CC doesn't brake. As far as i know, the only cars that brake are the ones with adaptive (radar-guided) cruise control, and the new BMW 3-Series (not radar-guided but does brake to maintain speed)Quote:
Originally Posted by Ferrarista
If your're going downhill (with CC on) and hold "-", the car can still gain speed if the hill is steep enough
Thats not special. Practically every new car does that. My '91 Soarer does that.Quote:
Originally Posted by VirIIx
Gold Star for your soarer.Quote:
Originally Posted by IS250
This thread isn't about being special like you - its about 'interesting bits on the euro found by euro owners for the potential benefit of other euro owners'.
Euro owners appreciate this thread.
DocB
Hi Guys,
Was checking the oil etc on the weekend and noticed something new.
Did any of you know that the windscreen wiper washer bottle has a dip stick???
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Originally Posted by thenozman
LOL yes...:)
Haha really, a dip stick? Thats a bit strange.
btw what do you guys put in there, just normal water? Or are you supposed to add a bit of window cleaner fluid?
ahahah for real?Quote:
Originally Posted by thenozman
i'll have a look tonight.
does anyone know what those plastic flap things infront of the front wheels are for? their like these black plastic things that come down and their pretty stiff.
They are mud flaps for the front wheels, so dirt doesnt go up into the engine bay area. I imagine they also for sound proofing to some degree, to avoid stones from hitting metal.
They're actually to help divert air around the wheels increasing the aerodynomics. There's a couple of good videos available on the Temple of VTEC where they go right under the car and explain everything -- it's worth a look.
http://www.vtec.net/articles/view-ar...icle_id=117652
The trouble is, if you put your keys down in the boot and then close the boot, you are locked out of the car, because the car has locked itself after 30 seconds, even though the boot lid was open.Quote:
Originally Posted by VirIIx
lol i think you've got your self confused with wat i was trying to describe, the skinny ones in the at the front of the wheel. lol i was imagining why you'd need mud flaps in the position.. unless you drive in reverse alot. lolQuote:
Originally Posted by EuroDude
thats the one im talking about, the second image from the top. wow, never would have thought anything about them!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tobster
I've done this once.. lucky i was at home, and they give you TWO keys.Quote:
Originally Posted by swguy
On this note, I did have 2 keys, but the other one doesn't seem to work, i.e., doesn't seem to have a battery in it because it's very light (I haven't opened it up yet, but it does feel much lighter than the other one). Is yours (and everyone else's) the same?Quote:
Originally Posted by xiang
PS. When I say doesn't work is referring to the button, I can still open and close the door manually and start the engine using the 2nd key.