Where and how much can I get it for? I went to whiteline's website and price was a staggering $220 + GST.
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Where and how much can I get it for? I went to whiteline's website and price was a staggering $220 + GST.
It's because the Comptech is a 22mm while the Whiteline is an 18mm bar. They have different stiffness and therefore are not just identical metal bars.Quote:
Originally Posted by 2jz
Maybe the price went up a bit - we got it when it was just released.Quote:
Originally Posted by curik
I think Repco can order Whiteline stuff so give them a call and get a price from them.
Yeah, I knew they are different but what I meant was in my opinion it is probably not worth the effort to source the comptech one from US when it is much easier to get the whiteline one, despite the difference in thickness.Quote:
Originally Posted by aaronng
I got the comtech one because I happened to have someone visiting me from the states and therefore was able to bring it.
We choose our rear sways based on the stiffness. If someone wants something stiffer than what 18mm can provide, then Comptech is the way to go. Why compromise with something that is not stiff enough for your needs?Quote:
Originally Posted by 2jz
You forgot shipping as well ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by curik
One of the Ozhonda traders here also sells Whiteline. Ask him for a quote (Underground Imports).
Hi black cat, is the whiteline gonna be comparably good compared to comptech despite being 4mm smaller?
LOL, black cat..... If you travel on the highways/freeways often, I'd just keep it stock or go 18mm whiteline. 22mm comptech would make the steering too sensitive and it would be tiresome on the highway to keep making sure the car was straight.
I really stiff rear sway bar isn't necessarily a good thing and one that's too stiff can actually cause issues -- depending on the sort of driving you do, and how the rest of your suspension is set up.
I can't remember where I read it (I think it was at autospeed.com.au) but supposedly a small increase in swaybar diameter can cause a large increase in stiffness (it's not directly proportional) -- it's something surprising like every 2 mm doubles the stiffness.
You want the front and rear to work together -- otherwise you'll get a really unstable car.
All right, undergroundimport has them and I'm quoting the pricing right now. Anyone has got one from them? How much? Thanks
pm egSi, he's the owner of undergroundimports he can help you out
hi to all,
i was thinking of getting rear whiteline swaybars for my 05 euro.
just wanna hear from ppl who has these on there car, if it maded any improvements and what they think of it....
also does anyone know how much they are????
cheers
mods may move if in wrong section.
i don't think whiteline makes front sway bar for euro.
I've got an 06 MT euro.I've got an 18mm rear bar on mine,it's good. Seems to "tie" the rear end down tighter than the std. one.I got mine from Roadholder suspension in Kirrawee(dont have their no.) $200.00 i think.I wouldnt buy Whiteline gear(had bad experience).Quality control leaves a lot to be desired!!!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by euro69
Euro69 - I have merged your new thread with an old whiteline thread. If you have more questions post it here.Quote:
Originally Posted by euro69
So do you have confirmation whiteline make a front sway for the Euro? The front sway is actually quite thick stock and making it thicker is only going to induce more understeer. If you are running coilovers, strut brace and a rear sway bar the front does not roll much anyway. So I would keep the stock front sway.
Fitting a thinner bar with the Whiteline rear sway would be an interesting experiment though :)
More info on the bar you have fitted please. As for quality of the Whiteline sway - not sure what could go wrong with the Euro sway as it is just a piece of steel connecting two ball joints. A number of members here have had them fitted for well over 18 months now with no reliability issues.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
I was told ft. bar is hollow!Also told not to replaceWhiteline don't appear to have one(if you look on their website):)Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
It's a Selby bar i think these guys sold out toQuote:
Originally Posted by yfin
whiteline(i'm not sure if i got the story straight!).Also told they make them in batches of 10 or so and don't check sizing often enough so they tend not to fit as well!!!only what i've heard.:zip:
Ok so you personally have not had any problems? I thought you said you had a bad experience with Whiteline bars (below)? Remember a lot of people read these forums so if you have a genuine issue you have experienced please let us know. I want to be careful of spreading misinformation especially when no member here who has purchased one of these bars for the CL9 (so far) has expressed any concerns with fitment, reliability etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Approx. 4yrs ago fitted ft and rear bars to a Subaru Liberty.both bars didn't line up properly(had dificulty fitting them).both brackets and bushes didn't seem to fit(too tight).used to squeak 1 mth after greasing up.Bushes used to move around in brackets,not seated properly.Bear in mind this was 4 yrs.ago.hopefully quality has improved!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
Far enough. Looking at the Whiteline site - seems that Selby has been a brand of theirs for quite some time. I think you have the same 18mm Whiteline sway (part BHR80) as everyone else.
http://www.whiteline.com.au/whoarewe.htm
Whiteline Automotive has its roots in the original Selbys Steering and Suspension company, started in the early 1960's making sway bars. Whiteline Automotive purchased the sway bar manufacturing division and retained the Selby's Swaybars brand continuing a proud 30 year history. At that time the company only manufactured sway bars for the majority of the Australian aftermarket suspension brands. Shortly after, we changed the company name to Whiteline Automotive and started to increase both the product range and brand awareness for Whiteline products. The company now markets many separate brands covering a variety of suspension and under car related products.
Mine's painted yellow and has a Roadholder suspension sticker on it???Anyway a bar is a bar to a certain degree.I'm happy with mine so that's the main thing:DQuote:
Originally Posted by yfin
This is really interesting! From what I can see on google - Greg Selby from Roadholder Suspension is the son of Ron Selby who started the aftermarket sway bar business in the 1960s. They sold the Selby name and business in the 80s to Whiteline.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
If anyone speaks to Roadholder - please find out if they are using the Whiteline bars or not. It could be they are making their own bars again and branding them Roadholder. A bar is a bar but they could be using different grades of steel - that is why comparing just the width doesnt always tell the full story.
That's how i think the story goes.it appears they're making their own bars!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
Great. So take note people shopping for bars - there is another Australian bar on the market made by Roadholder in Sydney.Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
Do you know Tony whether it has poly or rubber bushes? Some photos would be great too.
The bushes are poly.I'm looking for some rubber ones(18mm)to fit into the existing brackets(they don't require greasing and don't dry out and squeak)Anyone have any ideas where i can source a pair?;)Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
See how you go with the poly I think. I havent had any sqeaking in 12 months and people say they perform better than rubber bushes due to the stiffness. I greased them once in that 12 month period (when I fit a locking kit).Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
allright.I'll see how it goes.Quote:
Originally Posted by yfin
yeah got a mate who works at whiteline... he told me if i wanted a front swaybar i would have to give him my car for a day..... im gonna do it when i have some time off.
also i just picked up my rear today. gonna fit it tomorrow(hopefully) if i have time....
roughly what is the RRP price on these.....
cheers
I would say the front sway bar will cost about the same as the rear.
If you have a close look at the Euro's front sway bar, it's actually of decent size and from the looks of it, there isn't much space left for a bigger one..
Apparently the Neuspeed front sway is the same size as stock (27/28mm?)- just stiffer materials used so what you are saying makes sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuroAccord13
The Euro's front sway bar is hollow though, so you could still stiffen it up with a solid bar.
Could you pls. ask your mate if he could supply me with 2x D bushes to suit their 18mm rear bar?I've had trouble finding some.Many thanks.PS the rear bar is excellent!!!:wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by euro69
To the people who want the stiffer front sway bar - can you explain what you are trying to achieve? ie what handling setup are you looking for?
the d bushes should come with the kit....Quote:
Originally Posted by tony1234
I've got another brand of rear bar and the D bushes were modified to fit and they're not the best fit.I'm not having any trouble with them i'm just being picky:DQuote:
Originally Posted by euro69
ok i will ask tomorrow for u....
cheers,
Have you got a front strut brace for an 06 Euro?If so please send me a pic.and price.Thanks.:wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by euro69
not listed.... sorry
Hi euro69! Do you have swaybars for the euro? I'm in for 2. Pm me about the prices Thanks!
i thought about these rearsway bar before, but i heard u people talking about the cliking noise... so ya, anyone solved the problem about it yet?
mines is ok no noise at all....Quote:
Originally Posted by BusterSonic12
wow euro69, are you now a Whiteline trader? Maybe you should post your stuff on the traders forum. I am sure there are people who need Whiteline stuff.
nah im not a trader..... i just have a friend that work there.....Quote:
Originally Posted by curik
you have pm!
i will think about these after getting my exhaust :D hehehe
Installed the swaybar today. It is amazing! My car turns in much much sharper and there is even oversteer if i take u turns fast enough! Currently I'm at the 3rd stiffest. This is a great mod and very very worth every buck. Thanks Hoang (euro69). For anyone who wants a great price of Whiteline products, he is the right man to ask for.
going a tad off topic, i went for a 22mm rear sway bar, yes there is a difference, but i was hoping for more.
22mm? Torsional and bending rigidity also depend on the material and not size alone. The whiteline despite of its size it weighs nearly 2x the stock one, and the car's balance is very nice with it.
i'm using a whiteline one, heaps heavier than the stock one.
lol.
3rd stiffest? Did you get an adjustable rear sway?Quote:
Originally Posted by curik
Quote:
Originally Posted by curik
What do you mean 3rd stiffest, I dont recall the whiteline being adjustable?
Pls clarify.:confused:
yes they do....
they have the adjustable for rears euro accord.
so far only curik and i have them as i know of.....
I don't see it even in their latest catalogue. What's the part number?Quote:
Originally Posted by euro69
And WHERE ARE THE PICS?!?!!?!?!?!?!?
yeah it's not listed on the catalogue yet.
adjustable euro swaybar wont be listed on until next year.
i just try to take a pick of it on my car but it was to dark and the pic didnt turn out good.
What is the thickness of this adjustable rear sway?Quote:
Originally Posted by euro69
18mm
its the same as bhr80 but just adjustable....
Ahh, I see. Why not 22mm if it was adjustable? With the 18mm adjustable at the stiffest setting, it would the same as the BHR80 18mm non-adjustable bar, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by euro69
im not to sure. i have mine on the stiffest setting.....
i guess it wont be as stiff if i use the first hole but im not sure.....
How do you adjust this sway bar?
Can you adjust it while its on the car or do you need to remove it each time?
no it cant be adjusted while your in the car.Quote:
Originally Posted by mugen88
u would have to remove each time.
thanks euro69 for answering it about the sway bar being adjustable, i also have an adjustable one too, wel Curik ordered one for myself as well when he was ordering his. Well Im having the softest seting where as wen we installed his I told him I found it not much improvment enough on my setting, then he told me to get his to the third stiffest (this sway bar has 4 settings). Then he is so happy about it and we went for a test drive on his car and it even oversteered lol. We did comparison on the whiteline and stock sway bar, the position of holes of the endlink of stock sway bar equals to the third stiffest that Curik is having. Well, I cant wait until I get my car back from the panel beater to set mine to the third stiffest too.
Even though the swaybar is still 18 mm, there are 4 mounting holes on each end, and therefore you can increase the bending stiffness. Sleepy cat, the bhr80 is the same as having this swaybar at the softest setting. Boy I am so happy with the handling even at the 3rd stiffest! I wouldnt recommend having a setup at the max stiffness lol.
You serious?! So at a rating of 1 to 4 with 1 being the stiffest, you are using number 3?Quote:
Originally Posted by curik
Say in this pic, which hole is the stiffest setting?
http://www.cloudworld.net/image/whiteline/P2270016.jpg
Now you're making me want to replace my 18mm with one of these adjustables.
And another question, how did you jack your rear high enough to fit jackstands underneath?
from the pic, the first hole on the left is the stiffest.
We just jacked the car up both front and rear, say I could put my whole body under the car. I dont get ur question as how to jack it high enough? You just use the jack point at the rear and You should be able to put the jack stands on..
That left hole is the same as the 18mm non-adjustable rear sway's hole position. So it should the same stiffness as the BHR80? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by kitbkk
I tried jacking the rear of the car up, and at maximum height, I was still not able to put the jackstands on...... This was a proper full sized trolley jack too.
I have no idea how stiff BHR80 is but the adjustable rear sway bar from the pic is not whiteline is it? I think whiteline sway's stiffest setting hole would be on even more left (where it is blocked next to the most left hole on the left).
Well Arronng, I think you might need to get a taller Jack or you might be able to use a piece of wood. I could just put the stands on the jack points near the rear wheels with no pobs after I jack the car up at the highest. And then the bolts on the end links are ment to be tighen when the car is on the ground.
Hmm, a taller jack? That will be difficult to find as this jack is larger than most, unless you have a truck jack.Quote:
Originally Posted by kitbkk
The pic is of a whiteline, but it's not for the Euro. I'm interested in finding out the stiffness of your adjustable compared to the BHR80 so I can decide if I should upgrade. What was the part number of your bar?
ey??BHR80 is stock sway? if it is so, Me and Curik compared the stock one with whiteline adjustable one, the endlink holes of stock sway are at the same position as whiteline 3rd stiffest setting holes, but as the matterial made are different I think even the softest setting of whiteline adjustable one would still be ways stiffer
its BHR80Z straight from da box
sorry now i know BHR80 is a whiteline non adjustable one
No, I had already replaced my stock 14mm with the BHR80 18mm rear sway.Quote:
Originally Posted by kitbkk
so the softest setting of the adjustable one is still stiffer than the non adjuctable??? how much was the adjustable one?? got any photos of it?
I think the softest(rightmost) hole is the same position of the BHR80 since the overall dimension of both swaybars are the same.
he was refering to the stock barQuote:
Originally Posted by BusterSonic12
Could you check the installation instructions and let us know what is the equivalent mm stiffness that each of the 4 holes represent?Quote:
Originally Posted by curik
I've just had a look at my Whiteline RSB of the non adjustable kind.. It seems like setting it on the "stiffest" setting will put undue stress on the skinny OEM endlinks because it will be stretching towards the "stiffest" set hole..
I'll be concerned about how long the skinny end links can last...
On the safe side, I'd be looking at buying stronger endlinks.
I spoke with Aaron earlier about this and he mentioned that the V6 Accord's endlinks supposingly fits the Euro and I suppose it's stronger than the Euro's OEM ones...
Well cat with cool face, the instruction only says "always start from the softest setting" and nothing else. If the distance from the softest setting is about say 30 cm from the bar, then moving on to the next stiffer setting (which is 2cm closer), you will get less lever arm of (2/30 which is approx 6.67%). So maybe it is around 7% stiffer as you go stiffer than the previous setting. If you go all the way to the stiffest you are about 7*4 = ~30% stiffer than the softest position