I think Renault will start going down.
Watch Ferrari, McLaren maybe Williams and Toyota.
Few minor gremilins getting bigger and bigger with those Renaults.
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I think Renault will start going down.
Watch Ferrari, McLaren maybe Williams and Toyota.
Few minor gremilins getting bigger and bigger with those Renaults.
Im don't think its renault getting slower, i think its just everyone else getting faster!Quote:
Originally Posted by LUD02C
The Renaults definitely need to learn how to conserve the tyres. If they can keep a lid on the tyre wear, Alonso probably has the skills and the luck to close it out.
I think, hope, honda will show everyone what they can really do now this whole cheating business is over. Renault were good last year as well, good on them for taking the lead so far.
Do you think thats because there car is setup do differently to everyone elses?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivski
Engine different angle, and fuel tank different angle as well and they might have to change the camber abit more to suit a full tank?
Just a thought.
Also, anyone else see how quick the Minardi's are getting?
Raikkonen crash creates safety concerns
Over tyres used in Formula One
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Raikkonen's accident during the European GP
The spectacular crash suffered by McLaren's world championship challenger Kimi Raikkonen in the European Grand Prix has sparked safety concerns over the tyres used in Formula One.
New rules, introduced this year in a bid to stop the sport's costs spiralling out of control, have stopped teams from changing tyres during the race unless they are deemed to be in dangerous condition. But teams believe that puts them in an unfair position and McLaren boss Martin Whitmarsh admitted: "These regulations gave us a dilemma on Sunday, which we would rather not have."
That dilemma was whether to risk Raikkonen's life by forcing him to drive on in a badly vibrating car after he damaged his tyres or to pull him into the pits and throw away a vital victory at a crucial point in the championship race.
Their decision to leave him out pitched him into a massive accident on the final lap of the race and Whitmarsh said: "The problem has often been talked about but this has created a precedent, which demonstrates how dangerous it is."
There are fears that, with high-speed circuits like Silverstone and Monza and the notorious Eau Rouge corner at Spa-Francorchamps still to come on this year's calendar, another incident may not see the driver walk away.
Raikkonen's crash was a consequence of a driver error which flat spotted the tyre badly midway through the race but the ultimate failure was down to the gamble to stay out that did not pay off.
It is up to the team to avoid the problem but many teams believe they should not be put in that difficult situation in the first place but BMW motorsport direct Mario Theissen said the situation is currently unavoidable.
"I think as long as you have competition on the tyre side every manufacturer will be on the edge and certainly you run into problems sometimes," said Theissen, whose company supplies engines to Williams. "The main reason to introduce the current rules is to save money and I think we could save more with a standard spec tyre with no testing and then change them as often as you want.
"It was quite a surprise what we saw today, but we had some tyre problems in Spa last year and that would certainly become critical there, so we have to closely watch the situation."
Michelin motorsport director Pierre Dupasquier, whose company provides McLaren's tyres, believes Raikkonen's problem was amplified every lap and suggested failure was inevitable at some stage.
He explained: "He flat-spotted his front-right tyre and we could see the problem very clearly in his second stop. The trouble is it becomes very easy to lock your brakes repeatedly when a tyre has been flat- spotted.
"That just amplifies the problem. We have seen cars locking up here on many occasions during the weekend and that seems to happen a lot here because one or two corners encourage drivers to turn while braking."
Fernando Alonso, who won Sunday's race, suffered problems at the last race in Monaco when the handling on his Renault deteriorated due to tyre wear but he did not create a flat-spot and managed to finish in fourth.
BMW's Theissen believes the tyre war between Michelin and rivals Bridgestone, which encourages competition to push designs to their limits, has been partially responsible for the recent trend in tyre performance.
And he added: "I was pleasantly surprised in the early races of the season because the manufacturers had to switch from three or four sets per race to one per race. That is quite a big change and I expected more problems than we had so to me it was a surprise what happened today, but maybe that is because companies are pushing to develop more."
Source AFP
I hope this sparks some debate about this rule, one or two more incidents, and then back to the previous tyre regulations/rules. Can't stand it this year:thumbdwn:
With BMW expected to buy out Sauber, the rumour mill reckons that Williams could be set to use Toyota power from the start of next season.
Meanwhile, Nick Heidfeld is expected to move to the new BMW-Sauber team, making room for Jenson Button at Grove.
However, Honda have now emerged as possible contenders, along with Toyota and Cosworth, as new engine partners with Williams if and when their partnership with BMW ends.
The paddock is also awash with talk that Frank Williams was spotted in talks with Bridgestone's Hiroshi Yusakawa at the weekend.
Bridgestone are known to be keen to bring more teams into their stable, accepting that only supplying Ferrari with tyres is a severe handicap.
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Yeah, it's great! Gives the others a chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by LUD02C
hmmm god thats hard to get your head around all those rumours lol!
Be nice having a second competitive team running bridgestones:thumbsup:
yeah, i agree, nice to get a more competitive tyre war going again, then we can tell if its the tyres messing up or the cars....
But i don't think BMW is going to buy out Sauber so quickly, i think they will supply engines for a season or two first. No way is Williams going to go Cosworth, they'll want a factory backed engine for sure.
yea vtec **tripping**, anyway i agree williams wont wont cosworth engines, and i dont think bmw will buy sauber...
No wonder peter sauber hasnt been worried about getting his opinions known and siding with the GPWC instead of with bernie. I say its a step in the right direction.
The politics never stops. We're already half way through the year and the rumours are starting... the rumours are starting late this year. ;)
lol i hate all the rumours, its just so complicated.
I think that since there is so much talk of BMW to buy Sauber Frank Williams will just break there agreement.
I got a DVD on Frank Williams and this is something he would do.
Williams to go to Bridgestone and Toyota to supply there engines, thats my prediction by mid way 2006. (I know its a big call)
This is why Ferrari is the best in the paddock.
http://forums.fastfours.com.au/viewtopic.php?t=94091
Yeh Honda has NSX, BMW M3, M5, M6 etc, Renault GT6 (or whatever its called), McLaren F1 (not even Ron Dennis gets one so good luck Kimi and Juan)
Pure porn Ferrari!
Try keeping that to 40kph in a school zone.
i think juans company car is the merc benz SLR mclaren :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by LUD02C
oooo thats given me a hard one:p
I wouldn't complain with a SLR.
Juan has a heavy foot off the F1 track as well, he got caught doing 280km/h or something in a French tunnel is his M5. (when he was driving for Williams)
Anyone remember that?
yeah i do remember him loosing his license for some reason, which i thought was hilarious:D
Can you blame him?
I would do the same!
BMW had a meeting on Thursday about buying Sauber and who they want to supply to and all the rest.
Nothing has been released yet that I know off.
NOT HAPPY!
Also, when are F1 teams going to start testing there V8 engines.
Only BAR have had abit of a go.
They would be building them by now for sure!
Yeh he cant drive in any EU countries coz it was in france. Pretty awesome
This is Luizzi "partner" Cristina Chiabotto not bad!
hey dudes..
was wondering wot kinda breaks they use in f1? disks? and if so.. the norm usually is 'bigger the better' isnt it?.. but then the rim size on the cars r only 13"..
so yeah.. can anyone answer this for me?:wave:
All answered here mate.
http://www.f1technical.net/article2.html
Its more advance then what i would say, but better read.
thanks for that :thumbsup:
I think Jase is an insider for a few teams, honestly lol. How much reading and so forth do you do on F1? Answe to anything :thumbsup:
Nar Jackosimm, just been following it for so long and a lot of my mates are in to it and racce as well.
I wonder what tyres were used in those stopping tests. I'd guess it was the old qualifiers.
300-0 in 4s. That's pretty quick. And 100-0 in 1.4s, that's pretty quick too.
good stuff:thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by LUD02C
I wonder how many seconds it would take me to stop my Civic from 300km/h if it was towed up to speed.
mmmm...one set of brake pads?
:thumbsup: Top answer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
Funny stuff!
ccording to German publication Bild Frank Williams has admitted his team could run another engine other than BMW in 2006.
Much has been made of the relationship between Williams and BMW, with the German manufacturer now in talks with Sauber regarding engine supply and even a possible takeover of the Swiss based-squad.
Williams has a contract with BMW which runs through 2006 and the Grove based squad will be already working on next year’s car the FW28 making it unlikely that the team would be ready for a new engine design as soon as next year.
However, speaking to Bild Williams admitted that he was not unduly worried about engine supply as he has a contract with BMW and should that dissolve for any reason, there are plenty of options for the team.
Toyota, Honda and Cosworth have all been linked to the team over the last six months. Toyota is however is expected to continue with Jordan/Midland again in 2006. BMW, Mercedes, Renault and Honda have all gone on record stating that supplying a second team from 2006 is possible, so it seems that Williams has no shortage of potential options.
Earl ALEXANDER
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Juan Pablo Montoya describes what it's like to put in a lap at the Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, the home of the Canadian GP...
"You reach 297km/h in seventh gear along the short pit straight, before braking hard for the left-right weave of turns one and two. Located just before the pit lane exit, turn one is taken at 112km/h in third gear, and is immediately followed by the Coin Senna. This right-hand hairpin is negotiated at 80Km/h in second gear.
You push hard on the throttle as you exit the Coin Senna for the short straight that leads to the chicane of turns three and four. You drop from 257km/h in fifth to negotiate the right-left flick at 131km/h in second.
Exiting turn four, you sweep flat out through the long right-hand curve of turn five, reaching 273km/h in sixth before once again braking hard for the left-right flick of turns six and seven. The first left-hander is taken at 80km/h in second with your speed increasing to some 144km/h in third for the right of turn seven.
Full on the throttle on the exit as you power along the Place de la Concorde, achieving speeds of up to 318km/h in seventh gear, before dropping back through the gears for the right-left sequence of turns eight and nine. Entering the bumpy braking zone under the bridge for turn eight, your speed decreases to 112km/h in third gear.
The slightly faster turn nine follows and this can be taken at 128km/h, still in third gear. Exiting turn nine, you blast along the sweeping straight that leads to the L'Epingle hairpin. Having reached speeds of 257km/h in fifth gear, you brake hard for the 180-degrees right hander, which swings you round onto the Droit du Casino.
Accelerating along the main straight, you reach 318km/h in seventh gear as you approach the hardest braking point on the track. You pull -3.8G as you brake sharply to negotiate the final two corners that take you back to the start-finish straight. The right-left complex of bends is negotiated at 115km/h in third gear and you have to be careful not to jump the kerbs too aggressively."
that acceleration is amazing, 260km/h on that short straight after the first hairpin! SHIT!
I'll love to drive one of these cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hondavirgin
If you could do one GP which one would it be.
I'd pick SPA!
Nurburgring
id like to do monaco, be scared hittin the walls lol
I'd last one corner at Monaco. That first corner is a big understeer doosey.
Spa for sure. That's an awesome circuit!!
Sounds like Gilles Villeneuve circuit is pretty hard on the brakes, a lot of big stops. How do you think the BAR brakes will go? Was it McLaren who also had problems with brake dust or was it just the BARs?
Spa (for that sweep up the hill towards the end of the lap) or Monza for the history.
BAR no good on brakes, but they have put a lot on this car, its basically new!
Renault will DNF I reckon, Fisichella will loose his front wing in a driving accident and his day will go down from there.
My predictions:
Another race of Renaults chasing McLarens, or McLaren.
The aussie guys will talk up webber again before the start and he'll have another disappointing race while Nick has a solid performance.
Fisichella will score solid points (he scores points even when he's put to the back of the field :D ).
Ferrari will be mid points again, maybe show some amazing pace at some point of the race.
Red Bull will score points.
Sauber wont.
Jordan will beat Minardi
Toyota will be low in the points.
No idea about BAR though.........
sounds good honda virgin, just bump ferrari and toyota up and you then have my predictions;)
I hope all goes well with williams especially with Nick although i have a funny feeling webber might do good in thsi race.
are you talking about the incident in Bahrain?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivski
if u r.. they changed brake manufacturers straight after that round...
pretty sure they're with BREMBO now :D so i dun think they'll be having brake ware problems this round...
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hmm maybe brembo just supply the rotors..
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B.A.R Honda extends technical partnership with Alcon
Lucky Strike B.A.R Honda is pleased to announce the extension of its Team Technical Partnership with Alcon brake calipers and master cylinders for a further two years.
The renewal of the relationship follows a successful Team Technical Partnership in 2004, the highlight of which was B.A.R Honda’s success as runner-up in the 2004 Formula One World Championship.
Brake wear management is critical in Formula One. Many of the circuits in the F1 calendar, with varying characteristics and track conditions, are especially demanding on brakes and it is therefore vital that brake temperatures are controlled. Alcon’s technology ensures that the brake system remains well within the operating temperature limits during a Grand Prix weekend.
B.A.R Honda Technical Director, Geoffrey Willis, commented: “Alcon continues to be an ideal Technical Partner for the B.A.R Honda team, as its wealth of experience in the motor sport industry is important to us as we pursue our objective of challenging for race wins. We are confident that Alcon's range of F1 calipers will contribute towards reaching that objective.”
Alistair Fergusson, Alcon’s Managing Director enthused: “I am delighted that we have renewed our Agreement with B.A.R Honda. Over the past few years our two companies have worked closely together to develop technology to beat the competition, and we are looking forward to continuing our Team Technical Partnership for the second consecutive year and beyond”.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see a couple more flat spots at this stop-start track too. Only the consequences of a blow out or suspension failure in Canade will be much higher.
Which may help bring back previous tire rules!!! yay!:DQuote:
Originally Posted by Vivski
Yeah, wouldn't want a Kimi-esque suspension failure coming into the braking zone for the last chicane, that wall is might close to the track and its dead ahead.......Quote:
Originally Posted by Vivski
true that. It just looks so spectacular when it happensQuote:
Originally Posted by Hondavirgin
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Reports suggest Sauber purchase
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Big changes ahead for Sauber and BMW
Reports, yet to be confirmed coming in from BBC Radio Five, suggest that BMW has now agreed terms to purchase the Swiss-based Sauber team for a rumoured $270m.
Neither BMW nor Sauber have yet to make any official announcement on any deal, stating that the two parties are in talks regarding a straight engine supply deal for 2006.
While details are sketchy until confirmation is made - or denied, the relationship between BMW and WilliamsF1 has been especially strained in recent months with Frank Williams going on record this week saying that he is unconcerned over engine supply as he has a deal with BMW for 2006 and even if that was to change for any reason, there are alternative options for the team.
Hopefully details of any such deal will be made public shortly.
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ahhh c'mon i want an answer from bmw or sauber! the suspence is killin me:D
lolz interesting article...
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Finn light hearted in Montreal pit lane
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(GMM) Believe it or not, stone-cold Kimi Raikkonen has a sense of humour.
The Montreal winner was asked by British F1 broadcaster ITV what single element about the sport he would like to see changed.
McLaren's 25-year-old, who crashed on the final tour to victory at the Nurburgring, twinkled: ''I'd make the European grand prix one lap less!''
Kimi Raikkonen might also have been joking when he answered 'neither' to ITV's quick question: 'Beer or wine?'
Also up for a giggle in Canada was Red Bull racer and veteran David Coulthard, whose speedy pitlane tactics cost him a podium at the Nurburgring.
A female pit reporter asked the 34-year-old if he'd been practicing his button technique.
''I've been imagining it's your nipples so I'm being a bit gentler when I take my finger off.''
The TV station said: ''We've had a couple of calls about it. It was an odd thing to say.''
Juan Pablo Montoya, though, apparently wasn't joking when he was asked about McLaren teammate Raikkonen's $5000 fine for being late in Montreal.
He said: ''I hate being late. And I hate people who are late.''
We all know Kimi has a sense of humour. He's got a really dry wit, I love it.
"I was telling them the steering was too much on the left, it wasn’t straight any more, and we were a bit worried but at least everything went well and nothing happened, like in the last race." When he said that, I swear I detected the most subtle of wry smiles.
And we all know JPM is a tool... no sense of humour. Remember his reaction to the quote in my sig?
LOL at Coulthard hahahahah what a champ!
Had no idea about kimi having a joke lol, good on him.
And yes, like I've said all along, Montoya just can't take a joke:D
haha, Montoya is a fool "You broke my Fukn Head". :D
Guy needs to lighten up like the others, he's being paid to drive cars for gods sake!
I LOVE MONTOYA!
How could you hate him?
He is theonly true person in F1 that says as he feels.
But DC, what a classic.
Kimi, is just like any other Finn, can pull out a great line at any time!
I don't hate him, i just reckon he's a fool, too serious.
I want to know what the reporters response to DC was haha.
I just think he needs to find that sense of humour he lost somewhere. And not go mental every time something go's wrong lol
[QUOTE]McLaren's 25-year-old, who crashed on the final tour to victory at the Nurburgring, twinkled: ''I'd make the European grand prix one lap less!''[QUOTE]
umm, not that I m fussy, but wouldn't Kimi still have crashed out even the race was 1 lap shorter? The suspension let go on the preultimate lap I think...
It was good sense of humour from Kimi, but hehe do your maths lol :D
nope. he crashed at the start of the last lap.
Yss it was on the last lap you fool, so don't tell Kimi to "do your math". Anyways Montoya is an absolute legend, as Jase said he speaks his mind, and he is the only driver I reckon in the paddock who would actually clobber someone if he got pissed off enough, ahaha. His driving style is very exciting too!
Hey, was it DC who wanted to go fisty-cuffs in the carpark after a race 'cos someone gave him the finger? Montoya's not the only guy who tells it how it is. He's a bit of a brat.
Hey any of the Fez fans (LUD I guess) been checking out the new Lego collection?
I'm getting the Transport Truck and hopefully the 1:10 scale F1 car to add to my MS/Ferrari collection.
hehe... I just recalled now Kimi did crossed the line before the suspension let go on the last lap! My bad, I guess I need a math lession, who is a maths tutor here? :DQuote:
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Yeh DC went to punch Massa after Monaco but he stopped when he saw he was driving his parents!
As for the Ferrari stuff, I spent abit of money on a 1:10 scale of a F2004 with Michael's signature on it.
Also, it was the last lap first hair pin where Kimi crashed :(
hihidamon: welcome to the forum dude, hang around the motorsport section and discuss the events, also join the tipping competition ;)
Don't forget me me me!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jus-10
Score, where'd you pick up the model Jase? Id kill for anythin that Michael has touched, like a fork or somethin:D
I bought it when I was in Europe last year.
I remember readin in a SPEED mag about how some guy was selling a bmw williams f1 disposable paper cup that you get from like the water dispensers? Ahahaha, apparently the description said "May have been used by Mark Webber" heh.
hahahaha "may have" lol. I've entered that comp on RPM like 5 times already to win the hot lap with schuey:D
Sorry Jacko..I knew there was one other!
I have all these old Minichamps models from the Michael Schumacher collection which I was collecting during the mid-90s....anyway I had put them away because they were gathering dust.....
I was speaking to some avid model collector a few weeks ago and apparently one of the ones I have is now worth over $300 - others are still over $150 (I got it for like $60)..remember these are only 1:43 scale too. They are now as rare as rocking horse sh*t apparently....
I alkso have a framed original promotional poster for 1996 Monza (It's got Schumey on it)....you could spend a fortune on this stuff!
1:43 must have some great detail in them! All I've got is a replica shirt, fair few models+badges+books, weather proof jumper and a good ol fake jumper:D All Ferrari ofcourse. lol thats cool justin, my bright and loomey avatar hadn't been put on this page yet:thumbsup:
Hasn't this been discussed in another thread? You guys and your Ferrari propaganda, seriously... :p
Having said that, when I was young, I'd set up a track with lego and stage races with my matchbox Ferrari and Benetton. The Benetton always won ofcourse, 'cos it had cooler colours. :thumbsup:
That will certainly be a big help in Indy. That big long straight with a good overtaking chance at the end of it. The Williams-BMW will suck, who knows about the Toyotas, BAR and Ferrari. Once again, it seems like the McLarens and Renaults will have the upper hand.Quote:
After David Coulthard and Christian Klien came home seventh and eight in Montreal, Cosworth’s Dave Prigg said: “Our finish provides Cosworth with the enviable position of being the only engine manufacturer to supply a team with an uninterrupted sequence of engines from the start of the season. An unmatched level of reliability from the TJ2005 10 series engine, at its final race. Red Bull Racing will enjoy a significant performance step with the introduction of the TJ2005 12 series engine next week at Indy.”
Sources within the team speak of a 30 to 40 bhp power hike, which could be worth up to three-tenths of a second off the lap times of Coulthard and Klien.
Source: formula1.com
My prediction is that you'll see a good qualifying from Williams, but they'll get swaped into the first corner and stuck behind someone slower through the slow section. The cars are set up beautifully for slow-medium speed corners but just have no power. So in clean air, they'll put down some great laptimes, but wont be able to overtake and will be overtaken from behind with ease.
Heidfeld has openly told Williams that he is talking to other teams about driving for them next year and I think Toyota is one of them :confused:
Could just be a bullshit thing so Sauber-BMW get him.
Also, Le-Mans is on this weekend, and Leob is driving in it.
I wish Channel 10 had it, maybe ESPN or something might show it?
web site for Le Mans?
What is Loeb in?
Guess who will get the axe from toyota if Heidfeld really gets a drive at Toyota next year? ... Poor Brother Ralf ... :DQuote:
Originally Posted by LUD02C
http://www.lemans.org
Who knows is Heidfeld is serious about it or if BMW just playing tricks!
I think Nick and Jenson are both hot property this silly season!