Exactly, sound like my gf nagging.
Can someone pls post up better threads that have real essence.
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Exactly, sound like my gf nagging.
Can someone pls post up better threads that have real essence.
i think this topic has watered down, it's just the same old stuff over the last few pages.. let's move on.
Now.. i think my euro is better than a souped up excel because... :p
i want to compare an elephant with a bicycle..the elephant feels quicker to me.
Ooops..... DC5RQuote:
Originally Posted by albii
Okok, time to post in threads with substance... I admit, I think I sound like a child in my posts....
Wow!! =)
another sportivo thread...
interesting!! =)
Theres one in the civic forum...
read it... thats quiet interesting too.....
theres a sportivo in there who beats s15's and skylines.. =)
so apparently..they arent too slow =).
Corolla's aint bad.... reliable car...
*sigh* I like Honda and my Euro but I just can't stand fanboy comments like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Suntzu
Albii, if you think your truck (triton or whatever) feels quick, obviously, your sense of speed is seriously impaired. I still don't see how you can think a car can feel that quick just because it's not as refined. I agree to some extent but your argument is way over the top. Ofcourse Sportivo engine won't be as smooth as Euro's. Euro's are 'luxury' sedans, not sports hatchback. That's completely irrelevant IMO.
ever driven a v6 triton?? if you had you wouldnt think i was impaired...and yes a car does feel quicker the less refined it is...and if you think otherwise then its you thats impaired..its simple fact..unless of course all you have ever driven is hondas or bmws.Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
why is that a fanboy comment??? Suntzu just picked up his car and is overly impressed with it.......and i think he is right in saying his euro shits on the sportivo.........apparantly i'm a fanboy also...well SORRY for believing the euro is quicker better and more refined than the corolla.. but then again isnt it? considering i have owned vast types of cars including 76 fiat 128 3p, 95 hyundai excel 95 lancer gsr turbo ,94 liberty rs turbo , 98 v6 magna ,99 forester gt and now the euro doesnt really make me a honda boy now does it...see i could say you are a stuck up mummys boy who still gets his arse wiped by her but in doing so i would just be speaking crap...sound familiar to you?Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
Well, I owned Honda Prelude before the Euro and that was no where as refined as the Euro or even the Corolla. I'm pretty sure I can distinguish the speed from just noise/rattles/vibrations.Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
To whoever who said that the thread is becoming repetitive, that's because hardly anyone here even drove it properly yet, making their speculation sound like fact.
Calling other cars 'pissy' with no substantial facts to back it up can only be looked at as fanboy comment. What else is that? are you that blind?Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
It's exactly the same as Nissan drivers making fun of Honda drivers. Nothing different.
Just the fact that you owned many different cars doesn't make your non-sense argument correct. "Euro feels slower because it's refined" that's what I was referring to.
Obviously, the Euro is a superior car. They cost $10K more or something.
That's not even relevant here. Nobody even brought refinement into the argument before you did. I don't see how refinement has anything to do with speed. lol
I've been in Hyundai Excel, which had the worst NVH level ever and that didn't make it feel any faster. In fact, it made it feel even slower because it made heaps of noise but it didn't go anywhere.
Just been going through my old Motor magazines. Best they could get from the Sportivo was 16 sec flat for the 1/4 mile. A long way off 14.5 secs, and these guys can drive.
*sigh* 05 Sportivo is different from older models. It's been revised to meet the claimed power output figure because previous models didn't produce the claimed power output. I'm really getting tired of people commenting on things that they don't know about. :thumbdwn:Quote:
Originally Posted by Euro05
No way it can get 14.5. And IMHO, you cannot consider neither the Euro or Sportivo quick in any measures. They are not slow but I can't call them fast. When you have WRX, STI, B4, GT, S15, S2000, RX8 in the market.. Even a Forester XT will be faster than both Euro and Sportivo.
there times are of flat starts.Quote:
Originally Posted by Euro05
the type S does 15.4?...now that is bullshit on a stick!!
Coladuna, I'm not saying that the Sportivo is slow/crap etc. I quoted Motor magazine to show what time an experienced driver could get out of the car. It's not my fault if Toyota misled there customers and sold them cars that didn't produce the power they were supposed to, as you claim, although I find it hard to believe that a company with the reliabilty/quality control of Toyota would allow that to happen.
hehe..its funny reading all these..chill guys. we're all here to have fun ^o^. Toyota, Honda, Mitsubishi, Nissan whatever...cars are cars. No point in dissing anyone personally over a car is there? SMILE! Doesnt matter if one is quicker than the other. Most of us will never get on the 1/4 mile strip or even use the full 7000rpm powerband often enough anyway. SMILE! I'm happy! Then again..all this coffee is getting to me.
Whether you want to believe it or not, it did happen and it's well known by many people. That's why if you look at the current Sportivo spec sheet, they emphasise that the power output has been achieved using some standard test or something. That's also why Sportivo has been missing from the Toyota website for quite some time. So you don't need to doubt whether it really happened or not because it did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Euro05
coladuna if you cant understand that a car with very good nvh and very linear in the way it makes power could be decievingly quick i couldnt give a damn...i have also been in a m3 which is a very smooth car by any means and my forester felt like it could flog the **** off it but we all know there was no way that would happen..why cos the m3 is not brakeneck acceleration its very linear in the way it produces power and has better nvh...
dont know about you but i have driven enough cars to understand this.
exhaust noise, suspension height type of mods and yes even nvh make a car feel faster than it really is......tell me why is it that when someone puts a exhaust on a car that they feel it has unleashed some sort of magical hidden power only to get beaten by a stocko??
Geez. What a bunch of non-sense blabbing. Can't you see that you are the weird one who seems to think harshness creates sensation of speed? I couldn't give a damn whether you think it does or not either because just by reading what you've wrote, it's crystal clear that it's all bunch of non-sense.Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
Your example of someone with new exhuast just shows how limited your thinking is. So what some idiot with a new exhuast thinks that it made his car blindingly fast??? I don't even see what you are trying to prove with that example. In answer to your question, I'll say that it's because that person is in a fantasy world. Frankly, I don't even see the point of arguing with someone who comes up with that sort example to backup his argument.
Coladuna - Albii is entitled to his opinion.
If you disagree - that is fine - just leave the personal comments out when you post.
Does anyone else have something new to say about this thread? I think it has been done to death.
um ok ..go back and read the posts ..you are the only one here that believes what you say..no one else is agreeing with you so once again SORRY. :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
Just thought i'd do a bit of research on the Sportivo's issues, and apparantly they did have a lot of issues that have hopefully been rectified for the 05 model. One interesting post I did find on the Toyota Owners Club forum was this:
coladuna Jun 28 2005, 11:59 AM
I bought my Sportivo (Black) last Saturday which I'll be picking up tomorrow.
My initial impression from the test drive was pretty good. I expected it to struggle down low but that wasn't the case at all. I might also add that there were total of 4 people in the car during the test drive. For the price, I think it's an excellent value and I really couldn't think of any other car that came close within that price range when I was researching for my new car. Compared to my brother's Accord Euro Luxury, the gearbox isn't as smooth but it might be partly due to the fact that the demo car only had about 8kms on the clock (not 8000kms). After I get more time behind the wheels, I'll let you know in more detail.
I can't wait to drive it tomorrow~ Only if I didn't have to go to work Grrr....
So Coladuna, which car do you actually own? You claim on this forum you're brother bought the Sportivo and you own the Euro. Do you actually own a car? Maybe you need a good lie down.
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Originally Posted by Euro05
you tell em albii, the truck hauled arse though quite bouncey :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
Haha. You are such a hypocrite. You say no one agrees with me and you think someone agrees with your hallucination theory??? Hello~~ :wave: Wake up~ :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by albii
So I'M sorry.
*sigh* why do I bother.... sometimes we use same id on forums because we can't be bothered to make two user ids. So please don't make me laugh with that sort of accusations. It's just that I'm not blinded like SOME fanboys who think that any other car other than theirs' can't be better in ANY aspect.Quote:
Originally Posted by Euro05
Coladuna, Coladuna, Coladuna, your fighting an up hill battle mate and dying fast, your expieriencing a bit hysteria and numbness of the cranium section, maybe you should consider calling your doctor so he/she can pescribe you some prozac or whatever? Just lie down for a day or two, it ain't worth it mate, you get your back up very easily, come on gentlemen can't you see that he's just a bit tooooo passionate about cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
Maybe you should start to believe and accept what people say from now on because they might have a valid point, it's your pig-headed and stubborn behaviour that lands you in this position :wave:
um ok i'm right and so is everyone else........except you...hahaha :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave: :wave:Quote:
Originally Posted by coladuna
Albii / Coladuna - move on to a new thread subject please otherwise this one will need to be closed.
Coladuna - I have asked you to be careful of what you post in terms of personal attacks. There are ways of saying things without calling people "hypocrite, weird, blind etc". Please rephrase your posts in the future and don't just type the first thing that comes to your mind.
Lets keep it friendly. :)
Please lock the thread Yfin.
This is useless stuff
concur - lock this thread please
Thread closed - no new posts on topic today which tends to suggest topic covered as far as it can be.
If someone strongly disagrees - please PM me and I will reopen to allow you to post.