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EK VTi Front Only (22mm)
well my one does (and if the GLi has one then im sure the VTi would aswell)
So will you need anything else along with the swaybar or will it fit straight on the gli ?
wts the thickness for dc5s front and rear? and the thickness of the wall if its hollow?
DC5S rear is 21mm solid. No idea on front.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashprash
EDIT: Front is 26.5mm and hollow. Don't know the wall thickness.
so if i was to get 24mm whiteline shelby adj swaybars front and back, they would be better than oem?Quote:
Originally Posted by chargeR
Will they give you higher roll stiffness and hence less body roll, yes. Will this make your car any faster, probably not.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashprash
pretty sure em1: front 26mm and rear 13mm.
LOL! i noe a bar of steel isnt gonna make my car faster. Thanks!Quote:
Originally Posted by chargeR
I meant that they may not make your car any faster around a circuit :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by crashprash
Hey guys,
can anyone deffinately confirm
Eg Vti front sway = 22mm
Jdm series 1 front sway dc2r = 24mm
I just measured a front dc2r sway and it looks pretty close to 22mm not 24, or possibly am i measureing in the incorrect spot?
Changed the front sway bar D bushes on my VTi CD5 the other day.
27 mm ID bushes = 27mm roll bar?
Civic ES (sedan) and EU (hatch) both come with front and rear sway bars. i believe the rear is 14mm, and the front is 20mm. don't quote me on that though.
Jazz Gen 1's have a dedicated front swaybar. At the rear the trailing arms are joined by a beam that, as well providing lateral location, also contibutes to the antiroll. So although it isn't a separate swaybar as such they do have a noticeable amount of rear antiroll.
Cheers
Gary
dc2 rear sway bar stock is 14mm?
so (and i'm sorry if this is the wrong place, didnt want to make a whole thread about it) am i better off getting a 24mm rear sway or a 27mm. is 27mm just overkill?
Need to tell us more. Ie is it a track car or daily driver.
You also need to look at your front sway bar as 'bigger isn't always better'. 27mm bar will also put a lot of stress on your sub frame if you don't reinforce it properly. So there's no quick answer :)
cheers for the responseQuote:
Originally Posted by wynode
the car is my daily, but i love giving it a squirt on the twisties on the weekend, so essentially a good amount of handling in that respect is what i'm after.
I have a front and rear strut tower bar, and am keeping the front sway bar stock. The rear I am tossing up between 24mm or 27mm (27mm is the same price?!) and just curious as to what would be better, especially given they are the same price and as you said bigger isnt always better!
I would go for the 24mm bar not the 27mm.Quote:
Originally Posted by hiru
What you need to realise is that swaybars, along with springs, dampers, alignment and a myriad of other factors, are generally used as a handling tuning tool to obtain a faster setup on track. Since you shouldn't be driving even close to track pace on the street then the fastest setup shouldn't be the goal, instead the goal should be to create a car that is both fun to drive and safe.
With this in mind I wouldn't go for the 27mm bar simply because it will significantly increase the rear roll stiffness and make the car more likely to punt you off the road backwards at speed. Which will probably ruin your day. Honestly a JDM DC2R bar would probably do the job.
what you said is spot on about what i want to achieve mate! unfortunately dont have the moolah for a dc2r audm or jdm lol. i'll go for the 24mm then.
i'm not so much going for lap times as i am handling ability. and your comment about getting punted off the road backwards was in fact one of my concerns! i hit an oil patch in the wet around a bend a month or two back and nearly did that! i think my eagle f1's on the front saved me there lol
chargeR makes a good point about the 27mm bar there. So for your application the 24mm is probably the best. Gluck!
Swaybars IMO are the best bang for buck handling mod.
I use a 26 mm with an extra (softer) adjustment hole.
Cheers
Gary
Apples to oranges though, you've got a DC5 yeah?
cheers.. yeah looks like he has a dc5 and i'm after one for a dc2. got a pretty good offer on a mfactory one, but its 19mm. whats the general opinion? in comparison to a 24mm that is. noticible difference? for a daily with a bit of twisties fun... the price difference is about $50-%60. the 24mm one is whiteline...
okay bumpin this up and looks like its decision time. goin the whiteline for sure, 3pt adjustable. couple of questions:
1. 18mm, 20mm and 22mm are my options. for a daily and a bit of twisties action on the side, what would you recommend;
2. how strong is the dc2 rear subframe and;
3. do i need to get a tie bar to go with this?;
cheers guys. again i was going to make a thread, but i thought this might be better. the price difference between the three sizes is negligible, so that's not an issue.
22mm is the most ideal to reduce your body roll, so I'd go with that. The subframe would more than likely tear down the track if you don't use a sub frame reinforcement kit such as ASR, Beaks or something like that. An ASR will act like a tie bar also so you wouldn't need that.
cool, cheers for the info. forgive the noob quesion, but what is an ASR? or is that a brand like beaks? In which case isnt it just a tie bar?
An ASR is a brace that sits on your subframe holding your sway bar and spreading its load out. You can find the kits at traders on Ozhonda Such as JDMyard or through ebay. The beaks I was talking about wasn't the tie bar it was the subframe reinforcement kit. Though the ASR/Whiteline kits are more preferrable as they are one piece. The beaks I was talking about is this:
http://www.beaksproducts.com/SRK_EG_...nforcement.htm
Hope that helped.
Here's what an ASR looks like.
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2649/...2931d76737.jpg
That's also got Beaks Tie bar attached, which is useless in this case because it is already using an ASR. It is just there for appearance.
hmm ok interesting. really appreciate the advice mate. so just to clarify, ASR is in effect a brand right? I had a look on the whiteline site and couldn't find a similar part. any help would be really appreciated - if you could link us to the part on the whiteline site that would be awesome!
yes, asr is just a name. But we just call it that coz so common. umm sorry cant find it myself, most likely discontinued? Or you could give them a call. ASR looks better anyway and more readily available than whiteline kits. There's also CT-Engineering ones but they are hard to source over here.
cool cheers... the reason i asked about the whiteline ones is that i know i can get their parts for cheaper. hopefully i can locate a sub frame reinforcement too!
cheers for the help mate
i need some answers, gona be installing a 24mm rear whiteline sway soon, but im also thinkin of upgrading the front sway bar in order to reduce more further unhealthy roll.
is there acutally aftermarket front sway bars for dc2's ( a production from whiteline) or am i better off jus upgrading the endlinks and the bushings with the stock front sway bar.
no prelude love
Thats what I was thinking.
MWAKU, we get all the love we need over at PA.
But, when I saw this thread I did think to get the measurements off my old stock sway bar, but I dont have calipers :S
umm lol get a string and wrap it around then get that length measured divide by Pi. Then that will be the diameter. If your really keen that's a way.
Or get a few open ended spanners and use them to check the diameter.Quote:
Originally Posted by RtN
Or get a shifter, adjust it to the diameter then measure it with a ruler.
Cheers
Gary
^^shifter idea -> spot on!
Added ED9 and EF8 CRXQuote:
Originally Posted by wynode
quick question as this is kind of the same genre...strut bars...dc5 type r...front rear and middle....where the eff does the rear and middle bolt onto..rear is obviously on the sussy but il have to have a good look 1 day but middle :S?
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Originally Posted by wynode
Added EK1 GLi front only 22mm
EK1 CXi none
EK4 VTi-R front 22mm rear 14mm
does and 1 know stock size front and rear for DC5R?
i'm sorry for the question yet again, but i dont think i got an answer yet to this one!
would a beaks tie bar be as effective as an asr? or effective enough. been busy/out of the country and havent got around to it yet.. lol
i can get the exact thickness in a few days if needed :)Quote:
Originally Posted by wynode